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Type confusion--help a girl out?

fetus

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Okay, so I'm very new to Socionics and I'm still clumsy in its theory. Can someone explain what the subtypes are, and where I can find good tests on them?

I looked up some descriptions of the IEE Fi and the EII Ne, and they both sound like me, though they were a little hard to read. Are there any compare and contrast descriptions out there? Or clear descriptions in general?

Thanks y'all. <3
 

RandomINTP

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IEE = ENFP
EII = INFJ

Since you say you're a perciever (that you're spontaneous)
And you say you're more of an extroverted ambivert

I would deduce you're an ENFP, IEE.
I don't know where there's a good test, but I would just use MBTI and compare it to Socionics.

Another thing that might help you: Wikipedia. Socionics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, look at the german version. Even if you don't speak german, there are grids and stuff and it might actually help you.
They also explain the J-P Rationality-Irrationality part really well. If you want to, I can translate it into english, but in another thread.
Sozionik und intertypische Beziehungen – Wikipedia
 

Violet Rose

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Okay, so I'm very new to Socionics and I'm still clumsy in its theory. Can someone explain what the subtypes are, and where I can find good tests on them?

I looked up some descriptions of the IEE Fi and the EII Ne, and they both sound like me, though they were a little hard to read. Are there any compare and contrast descriptions out there? Or clear descriptions in general?

Thanks y'all. <3
I think this is the best online test, and it will sometimes give subtypes, but I would take it with a grain of salt:
Tests

I'd recommend finding your type before getting into subtypes, because these two types have quite a few differences. But as far as subtypes go, I've 'read' that an EII-Ne will seem more like an LII, an EII-Fi will seem more like an ESI, an IEE-Ne will seem more like an ILE, and an IEE-Fi will seem more like a SEE.

•Socionics - the16types.info - The concept of vertical sub-types article)
On example of IEI and EII types:
-IEI-Ni has boosted Ni and Ti, Ne and Te channels and weakened Fe, Fi, Se, Si channels.
-IEI-Fe has boosted Fe and Fi, Se and Si channels and weakened Ni, Ne, Ti, Te channels.
-EII-Fi has boosted Fi and Fe, Si and Se channels and weakened Ne, Ni, Te, Ti channels.
-EII-Ne has boosted Ne and Ni, Te and Ti channels and weakened Fi, Fe, Si, Se channels.

•YouTube videos of typed celebrities with subtypes:Socionics - the16types.info - Socionics Type Examples with Videos

•Type and subtype descriptions:
Socionics - the16types.info - Type and subtype descriptions by Meged and Ovch

•You can use the Reinin Dichotomies:

EII
farsighted
yielding
static
aristocratic
strategic
constructivist
positivist
judicious
serious
process
declaring

IEE
carefree
obstinate
static
aristocratic
tactical
emotivist
negativist
judicious
serious
result
declaring

Socionics - the16types.info - Reinin Dichotomies: Research Results

Sociotypograph — determine sociotype

•Rationality or Irrationality: http://rickdelong.com/socionics/theory/rat_irr.shtml

•Determine temperment:

EII is IJ
IEE is EP
IEI is IP

http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Temperament

•Romance Style:

-Both EII and IEE are infantile
http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Infantile
-IEI is victim style http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Victim

•Also, you can use Quadra's to distinguish types:

-IEE and EII are Delta
http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Delta_Quadra
-IEI is Beta
http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Beta

•Forms of cognition/thinking styles
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/content.php/51-Forms-of-Cognition-by-Victor-Gulenko

-IEE is Holographic Panoramic
-EII is Casual-Deterministic
-IEI is Vortical-Synergetic

*As to the whole MBTI/Socionics j/p switch thing, it's a common argument on every site. I'm personally for the j/p switch, and would not recommend finding your MBTI type and switching over, personally. But I added some IEI info just in case. You can read about it and make the decision for yourself here: http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=J/P_switch
 
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