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    Quote Originally Posted by kittenke View Post

    Ah wow. I have pretty similar synesthesia, I mean mine also often relates to categorising and concepts. Though I can't use it to connect concepts to each other and I never tried to. I DO have synesthesia for concepts in systems though. It's just involuntarily created but stable visuals-sounds-colours. I have loads of this stuff in my head. Every word's initial is coloured also, along with all number digits, for a less special form of the synesthesia. It does help me find number digits more easily and helps me remember words a tiny bit better. For number digits and also for quite some bigger numbers I also have sounds-visuals beside the colours. Of course that makes me remember numbers even better beyond me being already very good with numbers. There is also spatial synesthesia for when I do operations on numbers that speeds up the operations. And I do have some sortof impressionistic-synesthesia-ish thingy - again maybe like your stuff? - that helps me remember some other stuff, I mainly have/use this for remembering list items when I create lists that otherwise have too many disparate seeming items. I do try to categorise the items to remember better but sometimes it's just too disparate so the categories are not neat enough so then the impressionistic-synesthesia-ish thingy helps remember better. I actually have a very high capacity for remembering things using that thingy... And I've - involuntarily again - developed synesthesia for emotional states in recent years. (This came with my overall developing emotional awareness.) That really surprised me that it could develop for a whole new category of things as an adult, it's just colour synesthesia though, not more complex synesthesia. Otoh, I don't have it for people, wow that one synesthesia of yours is weird to me.

    No idea if any of that can be linked to anything in MBTI though lol
    That's really interesting actually. The sound visual thing specifically intrigues me, do you mean that sight can sometimes create certain pitches or noises or the reversal? I've recently started reading more into synesthesia and I've yet to come across the prior so that's really unique. The emotional state sort of thing is also really interesting. I guess I can relate to that to some degree in the sense that I associate colors with the concepts of emotional states (if we are looking at something more impression based), but not necessarily to my own. I'd be curious to see how that worked, I'm sure it itself could have the potential to aid in emotional awareness. You tend to be somewhat synesthetic in general, so perhaps the synesthesia is just something your brain does naturally with things as it begins to understand them, interesting how you somewhat develouped it overtime though, that's what seemed to happen with me and some of my sound based perceptions.

    God I wish this related to mbti, that'd be super cool

    Why do you call your impressionistic categorising awkward? I didn't understand what you feel is awkward in that, so that's why I'm asking.
    Probably because it sounds weird coming out of my mouth, or perhaps it just has to do with me being relatively insecure about myself (tbh most of the things I do and ways of doing things seem awkward to me). It's something that's heavily subconscious, and the way it manifests is sometimes awkward and out of place too especially when I talk about it or try to convey these perceptions.
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    I spend time analyzing my own emotions quite a bit and refer back to very core, basic principles of kindness, patience, flexibility, honesty, etc. as a moral point of reference. As a result I tend to know almost every cause and effect of why I feel and behave as I do. I can't always do anything about it - knowing doesn't always solve problematic feelings, but it tends to all make sense to me. This is a source of stability for me and just about the only thing that I have a sense of knowing definitively. Almost everything else is a feeling of confusion on the negative side, or a feeling of wonder and mystery on the positive side. I have an ongoing sense of feeling lost, but sometimes it is a beautiful feeling and sometimes terrifying.

    I also have a tendency to obsess about certain social relationships that are important to me, and sometimes random ones that trigger me because they internally reference something that is significant to me, but I find these are almost always stressful, looping, uncomfortable thoughts. I do best when I don't think too much about social relationships. They cause obsessive and depressive thinking in me. I almost always feel very alone, but have moments of 'highs' when I have a newfound hope in a new friend or something. Sometimes my own emotional problems can cause obsessive loops if I can't resolve the issue, but far more often the social thinking is my Achilles Heel.

    I tend to feel inspired when I kind of let go of everything and allow impressions to come to me. It feels like doing the backfloat in the middle of the ocean without a care in the world. I am overcome with a sense of wonder, letting go into the abyss, and then sometimes clarity will come and sometimes I just feel incredibly small and overwhelmed which gives me a feeling of security for some reason. I am an observer of processes in this mode of thinking and will sometimes have metaphysical experiences that I can't describe and don't really understand. I just go with the flow and don't try to control or define anything. I also experience it looking into the night sky or at fractal geometry or tesseracts. I like the feeling of my brain being stretched beyond comprehension, control, or definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalDoubt View Post
    That's really interesting actually. The sound visual thing specifically intrigues me, do you mean that sight can sometimes create certain pitches or noises or the reversal? I've recently started reading more into synesthesia and I've yet to come across the prior so that's really unique. The emotional state sort of thing is also really interesting. I guess I can relate to that to some degree in the sense that I associate colors with the concepts of emotional states (if we are looking at something more impression based), but not necessarily to my own. I'd be curious to see how that worked, I'm sure it itself could have the potential to aid in emotional awareness. You tend to be somewhat synesthetic in general, so perhaps the synesthesia is just something your brain does naturally with things as it begins to understand them, interesting how you somewhat develouped it overtime though, that's what seemed to happen with me and some of my sound based perceptions.

    God I wish this related to mbti, that'd be super cool

    Probably because it sounds weird coming out of my mouth, or perhaps it just has to do with me being relatively insecure about myself (tbh most of the things I do and ways of doing things seem awkward to me). It's something that's heavily subconscious, and the way it manifests is sometimes awkward and out of place too especially when I talk about it or try to convey these perceptions.
    I guess the most know source i can use is Scrabin music , basically his art is quite unique ... he could use harmonic /colors to express something that really is like something like my teacher told me : Scriabin is a lone star in the galaxy.
    Tho i think we can get awareness about that ... it's just require a lifetime of training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalDoubt View Post
    That's really interesting actually. The sound visual thing specifically intrigues me, do you mean that sight can sometimes create certain pitches or noises or the reversal? I've recently started reading more into synesthesia and I've yet to come across the prior so that's really unique. The emotional state sort of thing is also really interesting. I guess I can relate to that to some degree in the sense that I associate colors with the concepts of emotional states (if we are looking at something more impression based), but not necessarily to my own. I'd be curious to see how that worked, I'm sure it itself could have the potential to aid in emotional awareness. You tend to be somewhat synesthetic in general, so perhaps the synesthesia is just something your brain does naturally with things as it begins to understand them, interesting how you somewhat develouped it overtime though, that's what seemed to happen with me and some of my sound based perceptions.

    God I wish this related to mbti, that'd be super cool

    Probably because it sounds weird coming out of my mouth, or perhaps it just has to do with me being relatively insecure about myself (tbh most of the things I do and ways of doing things seem awkward to me). It's something that's heavily subconscious, and the way it manifests is sometimes awkward and out of place too especially when I talk about it or try to convey these perceptions.
    Sorry, if I was unclear, what I really meant is that I have several types of synesthesia for concepts, so it's any of the following or all of the following: visual in terms of colours, impressionistic visual, auditory.

    The emotional-colour synesthesia for me is actually for my own emotional states, not really just for the concepts of them. But yeah it's just like, I get to see a colour when I feel the corresponding emotional state. It only happens though if I try to focus on my internal state at least a little bit, or if I spontaneously get aware of it a bit. If I don't then it's just business as usual, I do whatever and the emotion usually just exists on the side without me really paying attention and I don't see the colour then either.

    And yes I would agree, my brain just does this in the process of understanding some stuff, idk what it depends on beyond that.

    For sure it's to do with that though yeah, I started getting the colour synesthesia for the emotional states after I started reading up more on emotions and analysing and understanding them in general.

    I didn't develop any of it consciously really, for the emotion stuff either, it just started happening and then I noticed it was happening.

    Actually it is interesting because it looks like that somehow my brain subconsciously must be categorising the emotional states based on my understanding (what I read up on about emotions, etc.) when activating the corresponding colour for the emotional state, and then I only see that "after the fact", i.e. I sense I have some emotional state, and I see the colour and then I realise what I am feeling and the colour tends to point to the correct category for the emotional state, yep. Even when it's an emotional state that I'm still not entirely familiar with, am still identifying it, etc. I'm not sure I should fully trust this ability lol, but yeah, it's been surprisingly reliable. Of course only as far as my understanding of emotions goes.

    In MBTI if I really really had to try and link it with anything, it for sure is some introverted function and not Fi because it doesn't seem all that values based obviously . It's either Si by being internal sensing, or Ni by being conceptual assocations in some way (??), or Ti by being conceptual (in a logical way). Maybe two of these functions being linked actually. Really not sure beyond that.

    And I didn't think your stuff sounded weird or awkward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kittenke View Post
    Sorry, if I was unclear, what I really meant is that I have several types of synesthesia for concepts, so it's any of the following or all of the following: visual in terms of colours, impressionistic visual, auditory.

    The emotional-colour synesthesia for me is actually for my own emotional states, not really just for the concepts of them. But yeah it's just like, I get to see a colour when I feel the corresponding emotional state. It only happens though if I try to focus on my internal state at least a little bit, or if I spontaneously get aware of it a bit. If I don't then it's just business as usual, I do whatever and the emotion usually just exists on the side without me really paying attention and I don't see the colour then either.

    And yes I would agree, my brain just does this in the process of understanding some stuff, idk what it depends on beyond that.

    For sure it's to do with that though yeah, I started getting the colour synesthesia for the emotional states after I started reading up more on emotions and analysing and understanding them in general.

    I didn't develop any of it consciously really, for the emotion stuff either, it just started happening and then I noticed it was happening.

    Actually it is interesting because it looks like that somehow my brain subconsciously must be categorising the emotional states based on my understanding (what I read up on about emotions, etc.) when activating the corresponding colour for the emotional state, and then I only see that "after the fact", i.e. I sense I have some emotional state, and I see the colour and then I realise what I am feeling and the colour tends to point to the correct category for the emotional state, yep. Even when it's an emotional state that I'm still not entirely familiar with, am still identifying it, etc. I'm not sure I should fully trust this ability lol, but yeah, it's been surprisingly reliable. Of course only as far as my understanding of emotions goes.

    In MBTI if I really really had to try and link it with anything, it for sure is some introverted function and not Fi because it doesn't seem all that values based obviously . It's either Si by being internal sensing, or Ni by being conceptual assocations in some way (??), or Ti by being conceptual (in a logical way). Maybe two of these functions being linked actually. Really not sure beyond that.

    And I didn't think your stuff sounded weird or awkward.
    It's multiple functions being activated simultaneously.

    I wonder which colours you associate with which emotions? I have a theory about which emotions go with which colours but I don't experience that way, it's just a concept I have. I wonder if you divide things up similarly.

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    After reading a lot of the responses, I am not sure if I think the same way as many in this thread. How I think is directly related to the task at hand. I don't have a constant "function" that I use, and I switch between outward (reality) and inward (imagination/minds eye/thoughts) awareness frequently. If I am not doing anything physical, I am guaranteed to be off in my imagination. Or when I am required to interact with reality, I am quick, precise, and seemingly without effort accomplishing things, and with extremely accurate awareness of time because I feel like I do not want to be there. If I had a preference, it would be being trapped in my head and disregarding reality completely. The only reason I do not do that, is fear of psychosis (which I had a taste of ~10 years ago). Even when I experience things like anxiety, it feels separate from my sense of self. As if I am a soul hovering in a jar. Everything happening to me, is happening to the Jar, and not me. (not sure if disassociation, because I can switch between states). But somewhere along the way, I got tired of being in my mind, and I wanted to seek new forms of inspiration to fuel my imagination. What caused that massive shift in preference? No idea.

    I am also a HSP, but the intensity seems to vary for me along with my moods. Why that is, I do not know. But when it is intense, I can sometimes see sounds (synesthesia) and sometimes feel like my minds eye was hit physically when I hear certain sounds. Another weird mental skill that I seem to have, is the ability to control dreams. That all came to me naturally. So I somewhat feel that I have some sort of control over my subconscious. As well as the ability to adjust my cognitive behavior, to suit my needs over time. I seem to be capable of changing my personality somewhat with that. Whether that is healthy or not, I do not know. (I have only ever met one other person that could do this)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    It's multiple functions being activated simultaneously.

    I wonder which colours you associate with which emotions? I have a theory about which emotions go with which colours but I don't experience that way, it's just a concept I have. I wonder if you divide things up similarly.
    The colours are based on my previously already existing synesthesia for other things - I didn't decide to do this, it just happened, involuntary and I noticed this later - and that synesthesia is very arbitrary overall - consistent in the activation of connections but arbitrary in what colours are picked for what thing, this abritrariness is just characteristic of synesthesia - so I doubt it's anything like your theory, but if you want, you can say more on the theory.


    Quote Originally Posted by Exolvuntur View Post
    After reading a lot of the responses, I am not sure if I think the same way as many in this thread. How I think is directly related to the task at hand. I don't have a constant "function" that I use, and I switch between outward (reality) and inward (imagination/minds eye/thoughts) awareness frequently. If I am not doing anything physical, I am guaranteed to be off in my imagination. Or when I am required to interact with reality, I am quick, precise, and seemingly without effort accomplishing things, and with extremely accurate awareness of time because I feel like I do not want to be there. If I had a preference, it would be being trapped in my head and disregarding reality completely. The only reason I do not do that, is fear of psychosis (which I had a taste of ~10 years ago). Even when I experience things like anxiety, it feels separate from my sense of self. As if I am a soul hovering in a jar. Everything happening to me, is happening to the Jar, and not me. (not sure if disassociation, because I can switch between states). But somewhere along the way, I got tired of being in my mind, and I wanted to seek new forms of inspiration to fuel my imagination. What caused that massive shift in preference? No idea.

    I am also a HSP, but the intensity seems to vary for me along with my moods. Why that is, I do not know. But when it is intense, I can sometimes see sounds (synesthesia) and sometimes feel like my minds eye was hit physically when I hear certain sounds. Another weird mental skill that I seem to have, is the ability to control dreams. That all came to me naturally. So I somewhat feel that I have some sort of control over my subconscious. As well as the ability to adjust my cognitive behavior, to suit my needs over time. I seem to be capable of changing my personality somewhat with that. Whether that is healthy or not, I do not know. (I have only ever met one other person that could do this)
    All that just sounds very Ni, including your adjusting capabilities and control over the subconscious, I think... I think it's healthy if it leads to good outcomes...? It sounds pretty cool actually.
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