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    Quote Originally Posted by AStrange~Nostalgia View Post
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    Oh that makes sense. No need for further comment. Thx
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    Quote Originally Posted by AStrange~Nostalgia View Post



    I can relate. so if I got this right, a secondary wing is the third highest scoring type you get. in my case it`s 3 and I remember my childhood being a 3.

    I mentioned in another thread that enneagram 3 christians tend to mistype as 1s because they don't like the idea of being seen as deceptive. I have a 3 father that would resemble a 1 because of his rigidness but that is because it is expected of him.

    and that was confusing when I took the test recently. it said I`m type 1, most likely.
    I get 4 on every test and i'm a 9w8. The moral of the story is the tests are garbage but they are a starting point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misfortuneteller View Post
    I mentioned in another thread that enneagram 3 christians tend to mistype as 1s because they don't like the idea of being seen as deceptive. I have a 3 father that would resemble a 1 because of his rigidness but that is because it is expected of him.
    0-0 well.. I think I have alot of research to do. I have to go and figure out which is my type and which is the one I have as strong. Because I was told that we may gain a stronger type over another over life experiences and such.

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    I get 4 on every test and i'm a 9w8. The moral of the story is the tests are garbage but they are a starting point.
    Have you tried this ? http:// https://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStrange~Nostalgia View Post
    That was the first one that I tried. It types nearly every INFP as a 4 since they look lowly on 6s and 9s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misfortuneteller View Post
    That was the first one that I tried. It types nearly every INFP as a 4 since they look lowly on 6s and 9s.
    that was the first and only enne test I did. and it was right. (I decided that I`m certain about my current enne I reevaluated it and it`s correct)

    the order of the types for me as the test says are as follows: 1-2-3-6-9-5-4-7
    the thing I didn`t understand is, considering the site might not be very precise, is that I scored least in type 7! is it common for 1s to have eliminated 7?
    because I CAN relate to 7 just like I do to 6 . while trying to understand 4 is almost impossible without previous mental stresses, it`s the only type I have hard time in relating to or understanding how they think.
    so is the result wrong or am I misunderstanding something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStrange~Nostalgia View Post
    that was the first and only enne test I did. and it was right. (I decided that I`m certain about my current enne I reevaluated it and it`s correct)

    the order of the types for me as the test says are as follows: 1-2-3-6-9-5-4-7
    the thing I didn`t understand is, considering the site might not be very precise, is that I scored least in type 7! is it common for 1s to have eliminated 7?
    because I CAN relate to 7 just like I do to 6 . while trying to understand 4 is almost impossible without previous mental stresses, it`s the only type I have hard time in relating to or understanding how they think.
    so is the result wrong or am I misunderstanding something?
    Here the list of primary defense mechanisms by type, followed by a more in-depth explanation of each:

    Ones: Reaction Formation

    Reaction Formation is a defense mechanism by which individuals reduce or try to eliminate anxiety caused by their own thoughts, feelings, or behaviors that they consider unacceptable by responding in a manner that is the exact opposite of their real responses. The One’s active inner critic dictates what is acceptable based on social mores, contextual expectations, and moral principles, and reaction formation becomes a defensive remedy when Ones experience what they deem “unacceptable” reactions. A subtle example often seen in Ones is when they dislike someone yet are especially nice and polite to this person. A more blatant example – one that is not exclusive to Enneagram style Ones – is an individual who crusades against corporate corruption, only to be discovered later as having embezzled money from the organization.

    Twos: Repression

    Repression is a defense mechanism by which individuals hide information about themselves from themselves – for example, feelings, desires, wishes, aversions, fears, and needs – that are too difficult to acknowledge consciously. However, the repressed information doesn’t disappear; instead, expression of the repressed data is controlled or held down while it continues to influence the individual’s behavior. For example, Twos may feel anxious and need reassurance, but they may be only minimally aware of this. Instead of exploring these feelings or seeking comfort, the Two reassures another person who appears to be in distress.

    Threes: Identification

    Identification is a psychological defense mechanism in which a person unconsciously incorporates attributes and characteristics of another person into his or her own personality and sense of self. Identification is a way of bolstering one’s self-esteem by forming an imaginary or real alliance with an admired person, then taking on that person’s characteristics. When Threes model their own behavior after someone else or the idea they have of someone, they are usually not aware they are doing so. For this reason, it becomes complicated for them to untangle who they really are from this image. In particular, Threes identify most with images of individuals who are admired in the Three’s desired social context, and the image with which Threes identify often changes as their context changes.

    Fours: Introjection

    Introjection is a counter-intuitive defense mechanism. Instead of repelling critical information and negative experiences that can cause a person anxiety or pain, individuals introject the information – that is, they fully absorb, internalize, and incorporate these data into their sense of self. Fritz Perls, the father of Gestalt Therapy, refers to this phenomenon as swallowing something whole without being able to differentiate between information that is true from information that is untrue. Fours introject negative information – and repel positive data – about themselves as a way of coping with painful information and neutralizing external threats. They prefer to deal with self-inflicted damage rather than having to respond to criticism or rejection from others.

    Fives: Isolation

    Isolation occurs in Fives as a way for them to avoid feeling overwhelmed and empty. Fives isolate themselves by retreating into their minds, cutting themselves off from their feelings, and compartmentalizing – that is, isolating each part of themselves from the whole or the related parts. For example, Fives separate their thoughts from their feelings and/or feelings from behaviors, as well as separating their personal and work lives. Fives may also isolate themselves from other people and separate their relationships so that their friends never meet one another; in fact, some Fives even have secret lives.

    Sixes: Projection

    Projection is a psychological defense mechanism in which individuals unconsciously attribute their own unacceptable, unwanted, or disowned thoughts, emotions, motivations, attributes, and/or behaviors to others. While the projection may be positive, negative, or neutral, it occurs because the individuals who are projecting perceive the projected attributes as difficult to acknowledge or threatening to believe about themselves. Because Sixes make these attributions unconsciously, they imagine that they are true, although at a deeper level they are not entirely certain about this. Although Sixes use projection as a way to create some certainty and thus reduce their anxiety in ambiguous, uncertain, or potentially dangerous situations, these projections – particularly if they are negative in nature – ironically raise the Six’s anxiety level. In addition, when Sixes project either something negative or positive that is untrue, they create a false reality without knowing they are doing so.

    Sevens: Rationalization

    Rationalization is a defense mechanism by which individuals explain unacceptable thoughts, feelings, and behaviors in a way that entirely avoids or obscures their true motivations, intentions, or the effects of the behavior. When Sevens rationalize, they do so by positive reframing, justifying their behavior by explaining it in highly positive terms. Sevens use reframing to avoid pain, discomfort, sadness, guilt, and anxiety, as well as to avoid taking personal responsibility for what has occurred.

    Eights: Denial

    Denial is a defense mechanism by which individuals unconsciously negate something that makes them feel anxious by disavowing its very existence. These can include thoughts, feelings, wishes, sensations, needs, and other external factors that are unacceptable to the Eight for some reason. Denial comes in a variety of forms. A person may deny the reality of the unpleasant information altogether, admit that something is true but deny or minimize its seriousness, or admit that both the information and its severity are true but deny any personal responsibility for it.

    Nines: Narcotization

    Narcotization is a psychological defense mechanism in which individuals unconsciously numb themselves to avoid something that feels too large, complex, difficult, or uncomfortable to handle. Nines narcotize and distract themselves by engaging in prolonged rhythmic activities that are familiar, require very little attention, and provide comfort – for example, washing the dishes; working in the garden; continuous pleasure reading of books by the same author or within the same genre; going for a walk or a bike ride; engaging in frequent or extended casual conversations; or continuously changing channels on the TV. Nines also use daily routines such as morning or evening rituals to immunize themselves from being fully aware, and they feel agitated, irritated, or disoriented when these repetitive activities become disrupted.

    The Mental Habits (Fixations) of Each Style

    Enneagram One: Resentment
    Paying attention to flaws so that nothing ever seems good enough

    Enneagram Two: Flattery
    The gaining of acceptance through giving compliments or other forms of attention to others

    Enneagram Three: Vanity
    The strategic thinking about how to create an idealized image based on being or appearing to be successful

    Enneagram Four: Melancholy
    Thinking continuously about what is missing, with accompanying thoughts of being disconnected or separated from others

    Enneagram Five: Stinginess
    A scarcity paradigm that leads to an insatiable thirst for knowing, a reluctance to share – knowledge, time, space, and personal information – and to strategizing about how to control one’s environment

    Enneagram Six: Cowardice
    The thoughts of doubt and worry that cause the continuous creation of worst-case or anticipatory scenarios

    Enneagram Seven: Planning
    The mental process by which the mind goes into “hyper gear,” moving in rapid succession from one thing to another

    Enneagram Eight: Vengeance
    The process of rebalancing wrongs through thoughts related to anger, blame, and intimidation

    Enneagram Nine: Laziness
    Lethargy in paying attention one’s own feelings and needs, thus disabling him or her from taking the action you most desire
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