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    People who say they "seen" something. Anyone who calls me "Babe." Fake fact sharers (aka know-it-alls). Heavy conspiracy theorists that won't shut up about it.

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    anytime someone says they are giving me a choice and then make it obvious that there really isn't a choice... like everyone is supposed to go to the make believe land wherein we all pretend to have free will but do whatever it is that is wanted instead.

    ie. my dad will couch these things like, do you want to go see your grandmother with me tomorrow?
    me: *hating how she's lost her mind and isn't her anymore and the weight of death* no thank you.
    dad: i think it's pretty poor that you can't take a few hours of your time to see her before she dies.
    me: you asked if I wanted to go and I said no?
    dad: you're coming tomorrow.

    i also despise being corrected in the middle of a discussion for something extremely minor like idk, we are discussing climate change and i say the amazon has 20" less of rain and the person has to say, ACTUALLY it's 18". like, the fuck does that matter? the point is still there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow as White View Post
    ie. my dad will couch these things like, do you want to go see your grandmother with me tomorrow?
    me: *hating how she's lost her mind and isn't her anymore and the weight of death* no thank you.
    dad: i think it's pretty poor that you can't take a few hours of your time to see her before she dies.
    me: you asked if I wanted to go and I said no?
    dad: you're coming tomorrow.
    I would respond to something like that with: "No, I don't want to go, but I understand it is important to you so I will go."

    Or, if I wasn't prepared to go at all, I would simply call him on the guilt trip and stick to my guns. If your grandma's health condition prevents her from recognizing people, then going to see her is really more for your Dad anyway. That's OK, but should be acknowledged rather than using Grandma as an excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow as White View Post
    anytime someone says they are giving me a choice and then make it obvious that there really isn't a choice... like everyone is supposed to go to the make believe land wherein we all pretend to have free will but do whatever it is that is wanted instead.

    ie. my dad will couch these things like, do you want to go see your grandmother with me tomorrow?
    me: *hating how she's lost her mind and isn't her anymore and the weight of death* no thank you.
    dad: i think it's pretty poor that you can't take a few hours of your time to see her before she dies.
    me: you asked if I wanted to go and I said no?
    dad: you're coming tomorrow.
    I despise this as well. My Dad does it all the time

    Dad: Where do you want to eat?
    Me: Red Robbins.
    Dad: There's a Ruby Tuesday's nearby.
    Me: No thank you.
    Dad: What about TGI Fridays?
    Me: No, I want to eat at Red Robbins.
    Dad: Oh, I haven't had chinese in a while, want to get take out?
    Me: No.
    Dad: Well I'll decide since you can't make up your mind. *Proceeds to go through McDonald's drive thru*
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    These are things that seem like INFJ hang-ups to me, based on the several years of communicating about it in this forum.

    People getting really pushy. There is a kind of pushiness/oafishness of someone who rather clearly feels entitled to dictate shared reality in a self serving direction with shoddy rationalization that drives me up the wall.

    For example, I know a guy who dated a woman that wasn't ready to have sex - and this guy would go on and on about how he wanted an "adult relationship," implying that not wanting sex in a relationship was immature. I think it's a manipulative and vile tendency.

    Inconsistency. I don't always see it as duplicity, necessarily - conscious or unconscious - but it does chip away at the sympathy I feel for the person's experience. For "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" reasons. Or when people hypocritically dish out stuff they can't take themselves.

    For example, I have a friend who called me once after a date because he had a panic attack while he was at her place and she practically shoved him out the door saying things like, "I really don't need a project right now, I get enough of this from family members, etc." He felt really disturbed by her reaction and called me to vent about it for nearly an hour. But the same guy has broken up with a girlfriend because she gained weight (and he was honest about it), and called me to vent about how he felt like he shouldn't feel bad about it. I didn't exactly know how to say it at the time (because I didn't even really immediately know what rubbed me wrong about it, let alone how to articulate why I thought it was hypocritical), but either we can strongly feel that others should modify how they present the truth to be careful of how it makes others feel should *or* we can strongly believe that others should have enough resilience to hear unfiltered opinions. Double standards like that make it difficult for me to empathize or even sympathize with the difficult experiences behind values that change according to what end the person is on.

    Or there's stuff like telling me in a private conversation that they can't really stand someone, yet seeing them converse with the person in an animated way - that indicates duplicity to me. Not malevolent duplicity, but enough that I don't really trust what they have to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z Buck McFate View Post

    Or there's stuff like telling me in a private conversation that they can't really stand someone, yet seeing them converse with the person in an animated way - that indicates duplicity to me. Not malevolent duplicity, but enough that I don't really trust what they have to say.
    OH HAI GIRL! Totes agree, I hate two-faced people.

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    -People who use too many details, flowery words, and read like a fiction book in natural conversation (I skip most details naturally and as a result I'm *really* monotone and a terrible story teller, but on the otherhand I'm good at stating things in a very simple and truthful way)
    -People who shame others constantly and nitpick for silly things ( I usually get pretty mad easily, I can't handle guilt or shame easily and try to go out of my way to avoid it)
    -People who waste my time: I can tell immediately when someone wants something from me, so when they use their "persuasive" voice I become dismissive even though I'd agree otherwise. Not the same as people who plead for me to do something, that is still straightforward, I just mean being indirect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z Buck McFate View Post
    People getting really pushy. There is a kind of pushiness/oafishness of someone who rather clearly feels entitled to dictate shared reality in a self serving direction with shoddy rationalization that drives me up the wall.

    For example, I know a guy who dated a woman that wasn't ready to have sex - and this guy would go on and on about how he wanted an "adult relationship," implying that not wanting sex in a relationship was immature. I think it's a manipulative and vile tendency.
    This would be a deal breaker for me, especially in an intimate relationship. I would send this guy packing forthwith.

    Quote Originally Posted by Z Buck McFate View Post
    Or there's stuff like telling me in a private conversation that they can't really stand someone, yet seeing them converse with the person in an animated way - that indicates duplicity to me. Not malevolent duplicity, but enough that I don't really trust what they have to say.
    I learned to hate this growing up, as it was one of the less attractive features of my mother's behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z Buck McFate View Post
    People getting really pushy. There is a kind of pushiness/oafishness of someone who rather clearly feels entitled to dictate shared reality in a self serving direction with shoddy rationalization that drives me up the wall.

    For example, I know a guy who dated a woman that wasn't ready to have sex - and this guy would go on and on about how he wanted an "adult relationship," implying that not wanting sex in a relationship was immature. I think it's a manipulative and vile tendency.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    This would be a deal breaker for me, especially in an intimate relationship. I would send this guy packing forthwith.
    Well stated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AI_INTJ View Post
    People who say they "seen" something.
    If I hear "I seen", I want to....

    I like to rock n' roll all night and *part* of every day. I usually have errands... I can only rock from like 1-3.
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