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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrophagus View Post
    That doesn't mean that Te-doms are exempt from such an ordeal. In fact, I see that as simply the entrepreneur being a poor judge of character instead of it having anything to do with him being an Fe-dom.
    No, he lacks Te. I can't give more details, but he clearly fails on a Te test. And his failure to have Te is causing him to struggle.

    I have seen other Fe using managers fail similarly. It isn't unique.

    I manage people extremely well. I resolve problems, minimize conflict, and calm anger with ease. But I know my blind spots and weak points. Getting a strong ESTJ in support of a Fe using boss is key for Fe user management success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SearchingforPeace View Post
    No, he lacks Te. I can't give more details, but he clearly fails on a Te test. And his failure to have Te is causing him to struggle.

    I have seen other Fe using managers fail similarly. It isn't unique.

    I manage people extremely well. I resolve problems, minimize conflict, and calm anger with ease. But I know my blind spots and weak points. Getting a strong ESTJ in support of a Fe using boss is key for Fe user management success.
    As a whole, having different people with different skill sets is primordial. We take into account their input and use it in the decision-making process according to the result that needs to be achieved.

    Te will also fail if it took away the human element. I might try to mimic that at the best of my ability, but it's not compared to someone who's a natural.

    Overall, a complementary relationship in the hierarchy is key.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrophagus View Post
    As a whole, having different people with different skill sets is primordial. We take into account their input and use it in the decision-making process according to the result that needs to be achieved.

    Te will also fail if it took away the human element. I might try to mimic that at the best of my ability, but it's not compared to someone who's a natural.

    Overall, a complementary relationship in the hierarchy is key.
    Exactly. Too Fe and everyone is happy but nothing gets done. Too Te and it is a prison work camp.

    I recently met person who works as a state investigator for discrimination matters. He said the line between a violation and huge fine and safety is short. It mainly comes down to phrases and activities and such that are Fe-ish. He called it simple human decency.
    “Orthodoxy means not thinking--not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness.”
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    The black and white thinking in this thread is limiting, not productive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SearchingforPeace View Post
    Exactly. Too Fe and everyone is happy but nothing gets done. Too Te and it is a prison work camp.

    I recently met person who works as a state investigator for discrimination matters. He said the line between a violation and huge fine and safety is short. It mainly comes down to phrases and activities and such that are Fe-ish. He called it simple human decency.

    I am not sure I agree. Aux Te can evidently be like that, however dominant Te should be observant and physically present enough to realize that this approach may/will not work. If we say that Te is keeping a ship afloat we must compensate for all problems to do it and that includes interpersonal relationships as well. The difference is that Te will do it generally in a much firm and cold-blooded way just to get it done.
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