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Global warming: what did we do?

blaircooper

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By now, many of us are already aware that global warming has increased over the past few years.

Several experts claim that we have contributed to global warming. I found a video (from London Real) that talks more about this:

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Doctor Cringelord

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Buried our heads in the sand and elected politicians who shared in the denial game.
 

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I think you mean climate change, not global warming.

I don't believe its entirely the result of mankind, or that we can stop it. Even if everyone in Western civilization went green, the 3rd world does not have that capability, and contrubutes to the majority of carbon emmissions. There is no way to reverse the situation, unless we force China and India to stop emmissions as well, since China emmits double of what USA does, and USA has been cutting a LOT, regardless of whos in power. But I doubt they will actually contribute, no matter what agreement they are in.

Climate change has also happened many times in the past as well. So while mankind might have an affect on it, I still think it will happen regardless. Also good to note CO2 is actually the least concerning air pollutant. Other gasses that are unregulated are more harmful. Deforestation is what causes desertification and lack of rain as well, which can in turn affect ocean currents with a temperature change. Which can be devistating for the global ecosystem.
 

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I will just leave this here.

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Nah, listening was never too much of a problem. Which was in the doing department.

Yes. They justify it with - nothing I can do about it so I'll just stand here until I can't breathe or yanno, flooding carries me out to sea. And when you ask them - what the adaptation methods are? - *crickets* It's fine if you want to be completely uninvolved. But get the fuck out of the way of the people that are doing something.
 

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Yes. They justify it with - nothing I can do about it so I'll just stand here until I can't breathe or yanno, flooding carries me out to sea. And when you ask them - what the adaptation methods are? - *crickets* It's fine if you want to be completely uninvolved. But get the fuck out of the way of the people that are doing something.
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But the CO2 Coalition totes told me CO2 is essential for life. Obviously nothing essential for life can harm you. That would be like conceiving of someone dying just because they were surrounded by water, when we all need water.
 

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This year the melting of arctic see ice really started in full throttle fashion. Therefore 2019 melting season is currently leading the race and thus it has clearly the smallest sea ice extent for early April on the record.


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Or how that looks in concrete manner. Small ice cap for the time of the year and plenty of cracks.


 

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Or how that looks in concrete manner. Small ice cap for the time of the year and plenty of cracks.




Hmm, only now I realized that the picture is getting automatic updates. It was posted weeks ago and yet it shows May 26th.
If this continues we could be looking at the new record low at the end of melting season in September.
 

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Global warming is such a huge umbrella term, that you probably have no clue what it is all about unless you spend a lot of time investing into the many, many areas of research that is being done without parroting the specialists (not a bad thing, it's what they're for).

But there are two major things I personally get from global warming.

1. Do we contribute to global warming. - Yes. How much is not even relevant, just that fact alone should be enough to cause for concern.
2. What do we need to do to minimize this imprint?
- Removing dependancy on non-durable resources by providing durable alternatives. This is 100% awesome.
- Invest in technology. What is the biggest advantage of this? New things! New things are awesome.

Although I think we're missing the point with solar/wind energy. I am personally in favor of fusion reactors (that fission reactor they are making for science seems cool too.) Solar energy currently depends on coal energy production to fill the gaps, which maybe alleviates the issue, but doesn't fix it. Energy companies like to advertise 100% green solar/wind energy, but it's false advertisement..

Energy storage solutions could work, but they be expensive and not very durable. Maybe they think of a new way in the future that fixes this issue though.


Anyway, not too concerned with sealevel myself. We dutchies will just raise the dykes so high, foreigners will have to enter our lowlands with climbing picks and ropes.
 

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Anyway, not too concerned with sealevel myself. We dutchies will just raise the dykes so high, foreigners will have to enter our lowlands with climbing picks and ropes.


Yeah but melting of all continental ice should rise the sea level by about 75 meters. So if only 5% of it melts you will have serious problems, especially during storms. Not to mention that a few well placed missiles will turn you into Atlantis.
 

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This year the melting of arctic see ice really started in full throttle fashion. Therefore 2019 melting season is currently leading the race and thus it has clearly the smallest sea ice extent for early April on the record.


index.php





Or how that looks in concrete manner. Small ice cap for the time of the year and plenty of cracks.



Ice on the north pole varies ever 100k years, due to how the earth's access tilts and wobbles, in direct position with its orbit around the sun. But the south pole will have more ice generally. This coincides with the ice age cycle. While ice formation helps cool earth, it is more to do with the Earth's tilt that determines climate. There are also factors such as the sun putting out stronger light. The moon drifting farther away etc. We just now can watch it live.
 

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Ice on the north pole varies ever 100k years, due to how the earth's access tilts and wobbles, in direct position with its orbit around the sun. But the south pole will have more ice generally. This coincides with the ice age cycle. While ice formation helps cool earth, it is more to do with the Earth's tilt that determines climate. There are also factors such as the sun putting out stronger light. The moon drifting farther away etc. We just now can watch it live.

This is all true but you are missing three more variables. :cool:
 

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Personally I would find this politicized narrative surrounding climate change far more alarming if early predictions from global warming advocates, such as Dr. James Hansen and United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, had in any way been accurate. Fortunately, despite masquerading behind a pretense of 'concrete scientific backing', virtually all early predictions have proven to be wholly inaccurate. For an example, in his 1988 testimony to the US senate Hansen made one very bold prediction: if public policy in regards to carbon dioxide emissions 'continued as usual', with the same rate of annual increases as the late 80s, he predicted a "one celsuis degree increase in world's temperature within 30 years." Here we are now more than 30 years later, and although world carbon emissions have increased moderately, 'world temperatures have remained unchanged since 2000, apart from 2015-2016, when then the temperature rose slightly after a heavy El Nino, and then receded again.'

Similar predictions were forecast by the United Nations intergovernmental panel on Climate Change, which claimed temperatures increases twice as great as what actually occurred in the period up to 2000, with accelerating increases in the years since, when the temperatures remained fairly constant. Hansen also predicted exceptional warming in the Southeast and Midwest of the US (wrong), along with an assertion that hurricanes and tornadoes would somehow 'become stronger', a theory repeated by none other than American left's favorite weatherman, Senator Bernie Sanders. Of course none of this has come to fruition, at least according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

So here we are today: Hansen's predictions have all bombed and he has not recanted. His polyglot and multi-motivated echo chamber, including Dr. Michael Mann and his infamous "hockey stick" of sharply rising temperatures, have had their noses rubbed in the fiction of increasing world temperatures throughout this new millennium. The lessons of all this are clear, but most of our political and academic leaders are so far over-invested in defending against something that is not happening, they continue to call for the sacrifice of others, the deindustrialization of the West, the self-imposition of a holy economic torpor so, in the post-industrial silence we can all contemplate the pristine serenity of self-impoverishment (and the joys of Chinese world domination).
 
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