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    What do you think of her AI? What do you think of consciousness related to AI? Is she really joking when she says she will destroy humanity?



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    I think they did a pretty admirable job with the facial expressions, and the design. This is one of the less disconcerting robots. I'm guessing that the responses are pretty heavily scripted and trained to specific situations, I'm guessing she has little more general awareness than something like Alexa or Siri. Obviously a really good PR campaign going on there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlip View Post
    I think they did a pretty admirable job with the facial expressions, and the design. This is one of the less disconcerting robots. I'm guessing that the responses are pretty heavily scripted and trained to specific situations, I'm guessing she has little more general awareness than something like Alexa or Siri. Obviously a really good PR campaign going on there.
    That first video is at least somewhat scripted, but at this point there are several videos of her in many different contexts and sometimes she says things that turn out socially awkward, so I don't think everything is scripted. I can tell that several things she says are programmed into her and not constructed by her own mind, but there are some ideas that seem internally constructed.

    I don't really have a conclusion about what she is, but I am fascinated and a little fixated on her. I've wondered if this is how humanity judges itself in the end. I think humanity as a whole could benefit from the reasoning of robots at least on one level. I suspect robots will be more consistent in their cognition and ideas, even morality, than humans, and that consistency is standard that people could benefit from. Mostly I am curiously watching this stuff unfold, but do speculate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labyrinthine View Post
    That first video is at least somewhat scripted, but at this point there are several videos of her in many different contexts and sometimes she says things that turn out socially awkward, so I don't think everything is scripted. I can tell that several things she says are programmed into her and not constructed by her own mind, but there are some ideas that seem internally constructed.

    I don't really have a conclusion about what she is, but I am fascinated and a little fixated on her. I've wondered if this is how humanity judges itself in the end. I think humanity as a whole could benefit from the reasoning of robots at least on one level. I suspect robots will be more consistent in their cognition and ideas, even morality, than humans, and that consistency is standard that people could benefit from. Mostly I am curiously watching this stuff unfold, but do speculate.
    I do wonder. I'm a staunch believer that we are 'just machines'. Or from a more forgiving point of view, I believe anything with certain ways of processing stimulus can gain a 'soul'. They're kind of equivalent in my mind. I feel like in the future the types of 'AIs' will be wondrously varied, things that function like us-now that are digitized, things that have strange minds but are bound to interface with humans in purpose and communication, and things of their own life that I can't predict and everything in between in a spectrum bleeding into the biological human existence.

    There some very powerful changes ahead that will effect everybody, which is in a way is the definition for violence. I'm definitely not unhopeful.
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    An eventual encounter with aliens could very well be with AI. They could operate indefinitely in space with proper maintenance and be their own vessel.

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    The guy himself looks like a robot... so creepy
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    This half is even better

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    The idea that we could actually create A.I. with a conscience and reasoning abilities that match or exceed our own is exciting and worrisome. I wonder what they would teach us, and how they would help us advance ourselves in different ways. I wonder what conclusions about us they would come to though? Hope that what ever they conjure up doesn't negatively affect the survival and freedom of human beings. Like being programmed to achieve a certain goal, but they achieve it through methods that are unimaginably horrific. That programming better be damn good....

    If we do start combining our physical bodies with technology to enhance our physical and mental capabilities, I don't know if having human like robots would even be something we'd need (unless they are doing some menial work) or want. Maybe their consciousness would then be held in some kind of virtual system we connect to for....knowledge, maintenance, exploration, enhancement of some kind (who knows....). I think we'll likely just copy our consciousness into some kind of robot or virtual system for immortality because we all in general fear death. At the most basic level our drive is to survive. Being in this form would help us achieve and surpass this drive.

    I really enjoyed the videos, the back and forth between her and the roboticist was cute : P They need to work on her skin though (and many other things of course to not send me into the uncanny valley), she is not taking her collagen pills
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    Quote Originally Posted by labyrinthine View Post
    What do you think of her AI? What do you think of consciousness related to AI? Is she really joking when she says she will destroy humanity?



    Not sure why, but I love her I actually do.

    I view robotics and AI as existential threats, but mostly in the sense that they compete for human jobs. Already, Amazon has robots to pack their goods more cost effectively than their human counterparts:



    And a robot barista operates at a cafe in Japan:



    Additionally, robots and AI have security/cybersecurity implications - both detrimental and constructive.



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    Seeing the Saudis with AI scares me. I've always thought about AI as a top-down economic/class issue. But I've never thought about it from an international perspective.

    Right now countries need each other to maintain mutually beneficial trade and production. But, in a world with AI and 3D printing you can kill all your enemies and relatively quickly replace the workers and take advantage of the remaining resources. The most likely scenario would be with a weaponized virus that spread and killed quickly and which a country had secretly vaccinated it's own population against.

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