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what the oil companies don't want you to know

INTJ123

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turn H2O liquid into HHO highly combustible gas(brown's gas). It does work I've built a ghetto test cell out of scratch. Myth Busters did an episode on it and they deceived the tv watching idiots, they didn't add an electrolyte to the water and said it doesn't work or produce enough gas. It does require electric current but there are plenty of renewable sources of electricity.

HHO torch/welder, they sell this for around $6000 factory manufactured.
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This one probably cost a couple hundred to build himself.

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You can turn your car or any engine into a hybrid HHO and gasoline. It's not easy to go 100% HHO though because of the ECU and sensors newer cars have that are factory set for gas. Though I have seen small 2 stroke engines run off 100% hydrogen.

It's incredibly simple to do this I suggest you look into it if your wallet is getting drained because of high gas prices.
SIMPLE Do it yourself instructions. but he does it kind of wrong/inefficient, a lot better than those mythbuster idiots though.
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Water go BOOM?
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Run for your life now!


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Usehername

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Because car parts are manufactured for gasoline and not HHO gas, are there any abnormal safety issues with conversion in a vehicle?
 

Not_Me

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The issue is how to safely store the hydrogen in a form suitable for powering a car
 

INTJ123

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Because car parts are manufactured for gasoline and not HHO gas, are there any abnormal safety issues with conversion in a vehicle?

Internal combustion engines can run on other flammable gasses like propane, look at electric generators. The issues of safety using HHO is higher temperatures and backflashing, mixing hho with gas doesn't raise the temps much though, and backflashing can be stopped using a bubbler. Overall it's pretty safe, I havn't installed it on my car yet because it's turbo, I would have to inject the hho into the intake manifold and there's little to no space under the hood for the modifications in my car. I'm also planning on selling the car soon so I'll do it on my next vehicle, not sure if I'm going to get a car next.

You don't need to store pressurized hydrogen when you are directly converting the water into HHO for use on demand.
 

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Feops

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Water + Electricity = Hydrogen. Pretty simple. But it's just not worth doing on a major scale at the moment.

Oil and gas are so favored because they are "free" energy. They require some energy to extract, but the energy density is high and a surplus results. Now, you could mass produce hydrogen, but why do that when you can just use electricity? The fewer times you need to convert energies, the less waste you'll lose to inefficiencies. Affordable electric cars suitable for general commuting are perhaps only one vehicle generation off.

One possible counterpoint is that certain machines may need the energy density of a liquid fuel to perform optimally. Electric cars and lawnmowers are not known for their rugged power. I could see an industrial use for hydrogen as diesel obsoletes, though it would carry a premium price.
 
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