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Winston Churchill

Churchills Type

  • ESTJ

    Votes: 2 16.7%
  • ESTP

    Votes: 3 25.0%
  • ENTP

    Votes: 5 41.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 2 16.7%

  • Total voters
    12

dynamiteninja

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This one's been niggling me for a while...

Brief Bio
OK, so he was the British Prime Minister (President, if you will) during most of World War Two, was later Prime Minister again with less success, and was one of the most prolific statesmen of the 20th century.

This may help in his typing:

He wrote voraciously after the war, and won the Nobel Prize for Literature I believe for his History of the English Speaking Peoples. He was a staunch proponent of the then formidable British Empire, and was a journalist during the Boer War in his youth. He suffered from a form of depression.

Edit: OK pretty unanimous on ESTP...
 

LadyJaye

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I loved the guy. He was a brilliant man, and humane. I'm going to suggest ESTP. He just struck me as being a real master of his environment, but also of the human element, and very innovative.
 

dynamiteninja

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I loved the guy. He was a brilliant man, and humane. I'm going to suggest ESTP. He just struck me as being a real master of his environment, but also of the human element, and very innovative.

Well I'm certainly leaning towards ESTp...

I'd probably say P because although he was determined to maintain the status quo of Britian as a world superpower, which seems stereotypically J, he was willing to switch the political party he was a member of twice I believe. He was also innovative and original in his approach to military strategy. Also, for most of his life he was considered somewhat of an eccentric iconoclast for his political views, which were against the norm.
 

Jack Flak

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I do believe I've heard his type as ESTP. Keirsey, perhaps.

Add: Nice job, Jaye. :)
 

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I loved the guy. He was a brilliant man, and humane. I'm going to suggest ESTP. He just struck me as being a real master of his environment, but also of the human element, and very innovative.

Intelligent, yes. Humane...

"I do not understand this squeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poison gas against uncivilized tribes. The moral effects should be good, and it would spread a lively terror."
 

LadyJaye

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Well I'm certainly leaning towards ESTX...

I watched the documentary his granddaughter recently did with PBS about his life - I thought it would be pretentious, but it wasn't. It made him very tangible and human, and his humanity wasn't contrived. He had a lionhearted way of approaching life and others, so yes, I would agree with the ESTX. One thing - I was watching the show with my ESTJ mother, and she said, " I would never take the sorts of risks he did." in looking for adventure, going to war in Cuba, etc. So that's why I was leaning toward the ESTP.
 

LadyJaye

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Intelligent, yes. Humane...

I'm not electing him for sainthood. He had this issue with Gandhi that showed his not so great side. But I think that he was irreplaceable at the time - he was the guy to get the job done in England. I think he gave people hope and courage. I know he profoundly affected people in the US as well.
 

dynamiteninja

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Interesting that he's an ESTP though, as they would seem to be one of the last types to develop a stutter or speech impediment in childhood, as Churchill did, and one of the types less prone to depression. I agree with the typing, however I don't see the ESTP as a type that would hate school as Churchill did, or be as unacademic.

Additionally, is the ESTP the traditional type to inspire hope in a bombed out civilian population during the Battle of Britain? I suppose that's just a feature of a brillaint orator. :)
 

dynamiteninja

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I'm not electing him for sainthood. He had this issue with Gandhi that showed his not so great side. But I think that he was irreplaceable at the time - he was the guy to get the job done in England. I think he gave people hope and courage. I know he profoundly affected people in the US as well.

Hear, hear.

Churchill was no saint, but I don't believe his very real achievements should be belittled.

People expect perfection from their leaders too much these days.

He was the best man for the job, without a fraction of a doubt.
 

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Churchill was no saint, but I don't believe his very real achievements should be belittled.

Nobody belittled them.

I was just pointing out his humanitarism, never extended to 'uncivilized' tribes.

Churchill was a war time leader above all else, he thrived on war.
 

dynamiteninja

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Nobody belittled them.

I was just pointing out his humanitarism, never extended to 'uncivilized' tribes.

Churchill was a war time leader above all else, he thrived on war.

The statement was not directed at anyone, I agree with you
 

6sticks

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ESTP. Especially when looking at his time spent in Africa before he achieved any real fame.
 

GZA

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I always thought of him as an ENTJ for his leadership and as ENTP for his witticisms... but looking at this thread I see my thoughts were rather one dimensional...

If I was your wife I'd put poison in your coffee!
If I was your husband, I'd drink it!
 

6sticks

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Well, Churchill knew that there was a war in the Sudan and made numerous attempts to get a transfer there, and funded his trip by working on the side as a war correspondent - which led to the army making a rule against that, which was one reason he left the service. He also made connections with several high-ranking officers and evaded capture by hiding in a cave, or something like that. I know this is vague, but his writings and personality come across as very tactical, adventurous, and opportunistic. ESTP.
 

dynamiteninja

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It's nice to get closure on a public figure's type :)
 

Cimarron

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Dynamite Ninja started such a thread already. Didn't show up when I searched.

But thank you for doing that thread.
 

dynamiteninja

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What differing opinions? Everytime I've seen him typed it's been unanimously ESTP.
 

Blackwater

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I always end up in the intelligent ESTP vs. profane ENTP ditch when typing him, though currently leaning pretty solidly towards S
 
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