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Trent Reznor

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and i was feeling those feelings you wouldn't believe
sometimes i don't believe them myself
and i decided i was never coming down
just then a tiny little dot
caught my eye it was just about too small to see
but i watched it way too long
it was pulling me down.

sounds Fi to me.
 

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Lyrics are supposed to express feelings, therefore, some kind of F must be present.
 

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An INTJ would not have come up with the video for Closer. I might guess INFP.

Typing by video? I'm thinking the video director had a lot of input in the concept and presentation of the video.

Typing by lyrics? Is he the sole author of the lyrics or were there cowriters? You're getting some of their personality too.

Why is he an N?
 

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Typing by lyrics? Is he the sole author of the lyrics or were there cowriters? You're getting some of their personality too.

Why is he an N?

Pretty Hate Machine was written in 87 or 88, and Trent did the whole album by himself. He had more control over NIN (for a while) than most frontmen do with their bands.

Again, the Downward Spiral looks like NFP poetry (potentially INTJ). Look up the lyrics if you want.
 

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"I'm losing ground
you know how this world can beat you down
I'm made of clay
I fear I'm the only one who thinks this way
I'm always falling down the same hill
bamboo puncturing this skin
and nothing comes bleeding out of me just like a waterfall I'm drowning in
2 feet below the surface I can still make out your wavy face
and if I could just reach you maybe I could leave this place
"

"I stay inside my bed
I have lived so many lives all in my head
don't tell me that you care
there really isn't anything, is there?
you would know, wouldn't you?
you extend your hand to those who suffer
to those who know what it really feels like
to those who've had a taste
like that means something
and oh so sick I am
and maybe I don't have a choice
and maybe that is all I have
and maybe this is a cry for help
"

I dunno, seems N. ISFP with strong tertiary Ni makes sense too, though. Some of his lyrics are pretty concrete.

Edit: N also makes a lot of sense due to his thinking outside the box with songwriting. Very original.
 
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And this is not my face
And this is not my life
And there is not a single thing here
I can recognize
This is all a dream
And none of you are real
I'll give anything
I'll give anything

^ He has shut himself off. He cannot reconcile the ugliness of life and of human nature with his Fi, empathetic predilections, he saves himself from the horror through detachment, but there are regrets, he wishes in some other place this wouldn't have to be the case. Hope and despair, two things that are prevalent in many if not most of his lyrics.

Nice and high and far apart
Just like they said
I built this place with broken parts
Just like they said
You chip away the old version of you
You'd be surprised at what you can do
I'm safe in here
Irrelevant
Just like they said

My voice just echoes off these walls

You feel me breathe
I am watching you
I see it all
The many ways you can't get to me
I see it all
I see the hell you put yourself through
Oh, the things I could do (If I wanted to)

My voice just echoes off these walls
My voice just echoes off these walls
I don't need anything at all
My voice just echoes off these walls

And I just slowly fade away

You will never ever get to me in here
He has a keen sense into human beings and their natures, if he so desired he could pick people to shreds but he doesn't and he won't. He is ALONE, he knows that very few people if any understand where he is coming from, he is ALONE, and perhaps this is all that he will ever have. AKA. Fi to MAX!!!!




"Where Is Everybody?"

did you happen to catch
or did it happen so fast
what you thought would always last
has passed you by
is everything speeding up
or am I slowing down
just spinning around
and I don't know why
all the pieces don't fit
thought I really didn't give a shit
I never wanted to be like you
but for all I aspire
I am really a liar
and I'm running out of things I can do

I'd like to stay
but every day
everything pushes me further away
if you could show
help me to know
how it's supposed to be
where did it go?

pleading and
needing and
bleeding and
breeding and
feeding
exceeding
where is everybody?
trying and lying
defying denying
crying and dying
where is everybody?

well okay, enough,
you've had your fun
but come on there has to be someone
that hasn't yet become
so numb and succumb
and god damn I am so tired of pretending
of wishing I was ending
when all I'm really doing is trying to hide
and keep it inside
and fill it with lies
open my eyes?
maybe I wish I could try

pleading and needing
and bleeding and breeding
and feeding exceeding
where is everybody?
trying and lying
defying denying
crying and dying
where is everybody?
Yet again, disgusted by human beings and their nature and he is desperately wondering if he is the only one who sees this horror and he wonders where everybody IS, where are the human beings not the animals, not the zombies, not the monsters, the human beings.



she shines
in a world full of ugliness
she matters when everything is meaningless

fragile
she doesn't see her beauty
she tries to get away
sometimes
it's just that nothing seems worth saving
I can't watch her slip away

I won't let you fall apart

she reads the minds of all the people as they pass her by
hoping someone can see

if I could fix myseld I'd - but it's too late for me

I wont let you fall apart

we'll find the perfect place to go where we can run and hide
I'll build a wall and we can keep them on the other side
...but they keep waiting
...and picking...

it's something I have to do
I was there, too
before everyhting else
I was like you

Either an ENFP or an INFP describing either an ENFP or an INFP!!!
 

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"I'm losing ground
you know how this world can beat you down
I'm made of clay
I fear I'm the only one who thinks this way
I'm always falling down the same hill
bamboo puncturing this skin
and nothing comes bleeding out of me just like a waterfall I'm drowning in
2 feet below the surface I can still make out your wavy face
and if I could just reach you maybe I could leave this place
"

"I stay inside my bed
I have lived so many lives all in my head
don't tell me that you care
there really isn't anything, is there?
you would know, wouldn't you?
you extend your hand to those who suffer
to those who know what it really feels like
to those who've had a taste
like that means something
and oh so sick I am
and maybe I don't have a choice
and maybe that is all I have
and maybe this is a cry for help
"

I dunno, seems N. ISFP with strong tertiary Ni makes sense too, though. Some of his lyrics are pretty concrete.

Edit: N also makes a lot of sense due to his thinking outside the box with songwriting. Very original.
MONEY, MONEY, MONEY POST!!!!

I was going to add this song to my next set of analyses!!!
 

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Would anyone care to post an interview where the N is visible (or point it out for me in the interview I posted)?
 

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Would anyone care to post an interview where the N is visible (or point it out for me in the interview I posted)?
Dude, what if he hates interviews, what if he is crap at 'em.

His lyrics are the most indicative of his N-ness, imo.
 

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Would anyone care to post an interview where the N is visible (or point it out for me in the interview I posted)?

I think his introversion distorts his personality in interviews.

Also, as a musician myself, I can say for sure that his songwriting is completely out of the box. Weird time signatures, abstract layers. He definitely came up with stuff that hasn't been done before. That's Intuition by definition.

Although, I must say, anything he's written past 2005 seems devoid of real feeling or intuition to me; it just sounds like regurgitation.

Either an ENFP or an INFP describing either an ENFP or an INFP!!!

I happen to agree with your typing of Trent, but there's no reason "she reads the mind of all the people as they pass her by, hoping someone would see" would be an NFP thing. Could just as easily be NFJ; in fact NFJs are more often described as mind-readers than NFPs due to the focus of the intuition.

Sometimes you aggravate me.

His lyrics are the most indicative of his N-ness, imo.

I'd say his songwriting is even more indicative.
 

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Although, I must say, anything he's written past 2005 seems devoid of real feeling or intuition to me; it just sounds like regurgitation.

I agree. I saw a new music video of his about a year ago, the video was awesome, it just featured an office desk with little office objects moving. But when I heard the music, I though "come on, he can do better than this."

But he does deserve credit, lots of artists crap out on their sophomore album, he's been going strong for decent amount of time.
 

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I'd put my money on AvereX's ISFP if I were a betting man, but only a buck or two. Even possibly ESFP.

He always seems to be very concerned with tactile things in his lyrics, what can be sensed.

Add: The more that I think about it, ESFP fits best. He wears his heart on his sleeve, he needs interaction, he doesn't ever seem to be not emotional, and he reminds me of ESFPs. Of course he's not the typical popular kid in class, but to say he had to be that being an ESFP would be "taking type too far," as I say.
 

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I'd put my money on AvereX's ISFP if I were a betting man, but only a buck or two. Even possibly ESFP.

He always seems to be very concerned with tactile things in his lyrics, what can be sensed.

Add: The more that I think about it, ESFP fits best. He wears his heart on his sleeve, he needs interaction, he doesn't ever seem to be not emotional, and he reminds me of ESFPs. Of course he's not the typical popular kid in class, but to say he had to be that being an ESFP would be "taking type too far," as I say.

GAH!!!!

:doh:

:steam:

:doh:


Watching all the insects march along
Seem to know just right where they belong

Smears a face reflecting in the chrome
Hiding in the crowd, I'm all alone
No one's heard a single word I've said
They don't sound as good outside my head

It looks as though the past is here to stay
I've become a million miles aw-
Why do you get all the love in the world?
Why do you get all the love in the world?

All the jagged edges disappear
Colors all are brighter when you're near
The stars are all afire in the sky
Sometimes I get so lonely, I could
Why do you get all the love in the world?
He observes the world, he is an observer not a participant!!!

He is the master of reflection and intraspection!!! Ns are ones to observe, reflect and intro- and intraspect!



I believe I can see the future
Cause I repeat the same routine
I think I used to have a purpose
But then again
That might have been a dream
I think I used to have a voice
Now I never make a sound
I just do what I've been told
I really don't want them to come around

Oh, no


Every day is exactly the same
Every day is exactly the same
There is no love here and there is no pain
Every day is exactly the same


I can feel their eyes are watching
In case I lose myself again
Sometimes I think I'm happy here
Sometimes, yet I still pretend
I can't remember how this got started
But I can tell you exactly how it will end

I'm writing on a little piece of paper
I'm hoping someday you might find
Well I'll hide it behind something
They won't look behind
I'm still inside here
A little bit comes bleeding through
I wish this could have been any other way
But I just don't know, I don't know what else I can do
THIS IS SOOOOO SCREAMINGLY NF!!!

*pulls out hair*

See the animal in it's cage that you built
Are you sure what side you're on?
Better not look him too closely in the eye
Are you sure what side of the glass you are on?
See the safety of the life you have built
Everything where it belongs
Feel the hollowness inside of your heart
And it's all
Right where it belongs

What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection
Is that all you wanted to be?
What if you could look right through the cracks?
Would you find yourself
Find yourself afraid to see


What if all the world's inside of your head
Just creations of your own?
Your devils and your gods
All the living and the dead
And you really are alone
You can live in this illusion
You can choose to believe
You keep looking but you can't find the woods
While you're hiding in the trees

What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you used to know
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection
Is that all you wanted to be?
What if you could look right through the cracks
Would you find yourself
Find yourself afraid to see?

YouTube - Nine Inch Nails - Right Where It Belongs

Yup, certainly the work of an ESFP!!!

X__O
 

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I swear people don't give S credit for anything on this board. It's silly. Here are some ISTJ lyrics for your consideration.

Walked out this morning I don't believe what I saw
A hundred billion bottles washed up on the shore
Seems I'm not alone in being alone
A hundred billion castaways looking for a home
 

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I swear people don't give S credit for anything on this board. It's silly. Here are some ISTJ lyrics for your consideration.

Walked out this morning I don't believe what I saw
A hundred billion bottles washed up on the shore
Seems I'm not alone in being alone
A hundred billion castaways looking for a home
If you cannot differentiate the difference between these lyrics and the lyrics that I presented you of Trent's, I really don't know what to say.

I do believe that this excerpt is beautiful in its own right, but if you could, I would appreciate the entire poem, for further analysis.

Oh, and how do you know that the author is an ISTJ?
 
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