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    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    I'm not angry, I'm just really exasperated. This has been building for a while now. Months. Every time an interesting man is bandied about as a potential INFP other types are quick to snap him up because he's too structured or too dry or too dark or whatever...
    I know, I noticed it before on INTPc (not with you in particular, just the sort of arguments or comments that were being made), so I'm sympathetic to that. It would be cool if we could hammer out some basic differences as expressed in their art, that could help differentiate.

    If it helps for comparison, I think that Neil Gaiman is an INFP and Tim Burton is at least an INFx and possibly INFP. And they're some of the best well-known writers around. I would dare say that Burton is sort of "pseudo-dark" while Gaiman can be very dark.

    Anyone have an idea on Clive Barker? or Dean Koontz? There are some possibilities there. And director David Lynch might be INFJ. he's also dark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    Why did it just cut off almost all of my post? My lengthy, cross-referenced, brilliantly coherent post? The remainder of which I just lost when my system mysteriously crashed seconds after replying?

    *searches for appropriate smilie*
    Dammit, there's no "slash your wrists" smilie.

    I will endeavour to rewrite a doubtless half-assed, dispirited version of my rhetorical masterpiece.
    Just as a general warning, it's good to save your long posts outside of the forum before posting (in Notepad or something); there have been some issues lately after admin went to install some new software.
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    Gaiman must be INFP and Burton could very well be as well. I've only read Imajica from Barker, and to me it felt very NFP (and a bit homoerotic). Neither of them are known as much for their humor as for their originality, though.

    My impression of INFP humor is that it often seems at first impression like INTP-light. However, if you look at all the nonverbal communication and all the shades of Fi meaning embedded in choice of words, frasing, intonation etc, it's just as rich as the INTP humor and just as funny for those able to pick up on it, but like INTP humor, it meets "WTF??" from those who don't.

    Also, just as an idea can be taken and played to the bitter logical end by an INTP, an INFP will often do the same but take it more towards the bitter emotional end, and in order not to feel restricted by fear of stepping on other people's feelings, they often make themselves the butt of their own jokes. Thus, an INFP comedian (and loads of INFP humor in general) will revolve around the storyteller's non-epic, anti-heroic battle against the windmill that in the end won by knocking him out.

    That said, there's no reason why an INTP can't be excellent in INFP-ish humor and INFPs in INTPish humor, it's just that when the best of the best, the creme de la creme of each category are mentioned, chances are INTPs will dominate the typical Ti-Ne humor while INFPs will dominate the more personal, emotinally directed Fi-Ne humor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    How about the more personal, values-directed Fi-Ne humour? For example, I think Simpsons is often very value-oriented. It's funny because you know it's so wrong. It's so wrong because it knows what's right.
    Ah, yes, sorry, I was thinking values, didn't find the word, and went with "emotion". (Sometimes it's extremely frustrating not to be a native english speaker, as nuances of words don't come naturally to me the way they do in norwegian, and nuances is what I normally deal in. )

    Yes, I believe series like Simpsons, Futurama, Friends, Arrested Development, Seinfeld and Curb your enthusiasm have come to life and been formed a lot through Ne and Fi.

    Edit: It just takes a bit jaded INFPs to do it. I've met few people funnier than jaded INFPs and INFJs.

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