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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    My point is that if he consistently in a forty minute interview
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    reveals F judgment behind his choices in life, and never T judgment, then he's a clear-cut F.
    *shrug* I disagree he has never shown T judgement, nor that his judgement is clear-cut qualitative rather than quantitiative.

    Which'd make sense if he's an IN_P. We aren't going to see much of his internal judging processes. They're, you know, internal.

    His mild expressiveness could be as a result of a matured inferior Fe as easily as not. He's mid-forties, it'd be just the right time for that. And last, having known a few INFPs and INTPs, he seems a lot more typical to my experience of an aging INTP than an aging INFP.

    But hey, feel free to be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meshou View Post
    Not provided.*shrug*
    Argh, I forgot that YouTube took down the Inside the Actor's Studio interview and so I linked to the Letterman interview instead. Sorry about that.

    I disagree he has never shown T judgement, nor that his judgement is clear-cut qualitative rather than quantitiative.

    Which'd make sense if he's an IN_P. We aren't going to see much of his internal judging processes. They're, you know, internal. His mild expressiveness could be as a result of a matured inferior Fe as easily as not. He's mid-forties, it'd be just the right time for that.
    Are you saying that we should expect to see his matured inferior Fe but not his primary Ti? Or are you saying that you see his Ti? If so where?

    And last, having known a few INFPs and INTPs, he seems a lot more typical to my experience of an aging INTP than an aging INFP.
    Personal recognition duly noted. But he reminds Brendan of the XNFJs he knows, so where does that leave us? I need arguments - e.g. distinctly INTP-like (or INFP-like, or INFJ-like) behavior in interviews.

    But hey, feel free to be wrong.
    If I didn't care to be challenged, do you think I'd be asking for help composing this list?

    I'll be posting more on JD later.

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    I've always thought of Depp as an IXFP. The Letterman interview, though, who but an NF would climb to up to paint over the gun on a bill-board because they didn't like being depicted holding a gun?
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    My initial instinct on Depp was INFJ from the start. NFs tend to emit a certain kind of warmth that I do not experience with other types (just as NTs express a certain kind of clarity but but "coolness" -- impersonality -- at some level). He also seems to lock into his roles with the certainty of a J, where P's tend to "play around with the roles" more -- and he's more enigmatic about his personal life and truly matters (tends to happen because there's a wealth under there with the Ni, but the outward expression is dominated by Fe patterns), whereas INFP exposes Ne when it interrelates and tends to be more open about itself and its thoughts, expressed through ideas.

    I still think Clinton is an ESFP (he's akin to the ESFPs I know personally, and NOT akin to the ENFPs I know); but I'm tired of discussing him for the 30x time, so you can make whatever decision you'd like.

    I think one flaw in trying to determine a personality by determining 'strongest function' is that we can't see clearly inside, and as people age (as Meshou pointed out), weaker functions hopefully become more developed, masking the instinctual/preferred functions.

    I tend to use some of that, plus a mental "personality snapshot" that accumulates pictures of what each type generally "looks like" in real life, and then I use look-and-feel to help me make a good opening guess, which I can then hone in on. One flaw in this approach is, of course, is accumulating a full range of snapshots to begin with... so if you haven't been exposed to a particular manifestation of a type and have it in your database, you won't find a match or you might match things up elsewhere. (Such as with my initial difficulty in thinking about Ivanka Trump, who likely could be ESTJ despite not matching up to the more typical sorts I've encountered.)
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    First I have to say I didn't listen to the interview...no time right now...but I will. I have always thought Depp was an N. Definately NOT an NT and more an NFP then an NFJ. I love the roles he takes on and his quirky persona. I think he is prob I...I wouldn't be surprised if he were an INFP. Does he have any writings anywhere. I'd love to read his thoughts as opposed to listening to them.
    for my life is slowed up by thought and the need to understand what I am living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I still think Clinton is an ESFP (he's akin to the ESFPs I know personally, and NOT akin to the ENFPs I know); but I'm tired of discussing him for the 30x time, so you can make whatever decision you'd like.
    Bill Clinton an S, really? I respect your wish to not go there again, but I'd love to read what you've argued previously. I've found this post - have you written more?

    *plans to get ahold of BC's biography*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    Bill Clinton an S, really? I respect your wish to not go there again, but I'd love to read what you've argued previously. I've found this post - have you written more?

    *plans to get ahold of BC's biography*
    Yes Bill Clinton an S. Definately. That was my OP...you can always go check out Kiersey book Presidential Temperments if you want some more insight...and of course read Bill's book..(he does have a book doesn't he?)
    for my life is slowed up by thought and the need to understand what I am living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlelostnf View Post
    Yes Bill Clinton an S. Definately. That was my OP...you can always go check out Kiersey book Presidential Temperments if you want some more insight...and of course read Bill's book..(he does have a book doesn't he?)
    Your OP?

    Regarding Keirsey and Clinton's bio, see what I wrote here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SolitaryWalker View Post
    Bill Clinton-ENFP
    Are you sure?

    http://www.advisorteam.com/newslette...llarybill.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlelostnf View Post
    First I have to say I didn't listen to the interview...no time right now...but I will. I have always thought Depp was an N. Definately NOT an NT and more an NFP then an NFJ. I love the roles he takes on and his quirky persona. I think he is prob I...I wouldn't be surprised if he were an INFP. Does he have any writings anywhere. I'd love to read his thoughts as opposed to listening to them.
    DEPP IMPACT

    I dont care too much for celebrity's, but i was looking for Hunter S. Thompson obituries after he died, and came across these Depp writings.

    Hope they help.

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