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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    Interesting - I would have said exactly the opposite (bashful INFJs, attention-happy ENFJs).
    I didn't call INFJ's attention happy, I just said they seem more sure of themselves. I did however forget to mention that while the ENFJ's I know do fidget under lots of attention, it's only when they don't know what to expect. So in an interview my ENFJ friends and I fidget when we're being interviewed, but we're confident when we're the ones in control of what's going to be said and asked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
    I didn't call INFJ's attention happy, I just said they seem more sure of themselves. I did however forget to mention that while the ENFJ's I know do fidget under lots of attention, it's only when they don't know what to expect. So in an interview my ENFJ friends and I fidget when we're being interviewed, but we're confident when we're the ones in control of what's going to be said and asked.
    By attention-happy, I meant comfortable in the spotlight (not bashful or fidgety). But I understand what you mean by INFJs possibly seeming more sure of themselves - I think that would be Introverted Intuition peeking out.

    I'd love to hear what you think of Johnny Depp in the interview I linked to in the original post. He seems very introverted to me - I was actually just wondering about the J/P dimension (INFJ versus INFP).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    By attention-happy, I meant comfortable in the spotlight (not bashful or fidgety). But I understand what you mean by INFJs possibly seeming more sure of themselves - I think that would be Introverted Intuition peeking out.

    I'd love to hear what you think of Johnny Depp in the interview I linked to in the original post. He seems very introverted to me - I was actually just wondering about the J/P dimension (INFJ versus INFP).
    I've no doubt he's a J. His personality just sort of says, "Ni" to me. I usually immediately feel an identification with people who have Ni as one of their first two functions. Idk. I just do. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
    I've no doubt he's a J. His personality just sort of says, "Ni" to me. I usually immediately feel an identification with people who have Ni as one of their first two functions. Idk. I just do. Lol.
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    I'd say Depp was much more P than J, although it's difficult to tell T/F. He DOES scream Ni, but so do I, and there's no way I'm a J. Function order's not something I agree with.

    Dorothy Parker may have been an INFJ or INFP, although she was not a very strongly expressed F.

    Anne Frank, most definately INFP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meshou View Post
    I'd say Depp was much more P than J, although it's difficult to tell T/F. He DOES scream Ni, but so do I, and there's no way I'm a J. Function order's not something I agree with.
    Difficult to tell T/F? Have you checked out the interview I linked to in the original post?

    Dorothy Parker may have been an INFJ or INFP, although she was not a very strongly expressed F.

    Anne Frank, most definately INFP.
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    Hah, I guess. I'm not so interested in living people.

    Having been in the presence of INTPs and INFPs, I could see Depp as either. My INTP ex was a LOT like him. Like, a LOT a lot, and I see a lot of myself in there too.

    He certainly has a developed feeling side. That may come from age, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meshou View Post
    Having been in the presence of INTPs and INFPs, I could see Depp as either. My INTP ex was a LOT like him. Like, a LOT a lot, and I see a lot of myself in there too.

    He certainly has a developed feeling side. That may come from age, though.
    Based on that interview I linked to, I'd say no way he's NT. He doesn't apply any form of logical analysis once in that (long) interview.

    It's almost worth posting the suggestion of Johnny Depp as an INTP at INTPc just to get their reactions.

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    Well, he wasn't really asked to. I've gone months in a job without giving any hint I was an intuitive, for instance, because it was basically a cashier job and the situation just didn't require intuition. Likewise, he was socializing and talking about personal experience-- which does not require a great deal of analysis.

    I've seen him on "Inside the Actor's Studio." He does, when it is asked of him, have some analytical skill. While I'd lean F, I would not rule out T by any means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meshou View Post
    Well, he wasn't really asked to. I've gone months in a job without giving any hint I was an intuitive, for instance, because it was basically a cashier job and the situation just didn't require intuition. Likewise, he was socializing and talking about personal experience-- which does not require a great deal of analysis.
    My answer is that NTs routinely apply logical analysis even to our personal choices in life. There's no way an NT could be interviewed for forty minutes without demonstrating this.

    Think of it this way: Would a forty minute interview reveal that you are intuitive?

    I've seen him on "Inside the Actor's Studio." He does, when it is asked of him, have some analytical skill. While I'd lean F, I would not rule out T by any means.
    Are you keeping the door open for T because you've picked up on "some analytical skill"? That's a little unfair to the Fs, methinks.

    My point is that if he consistently in a forty minute interview reveals F judgment behind his choices in life, and never T judgment, then he's a clear-cut F.

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