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    Frank Zappa.

    Type Him.

    I've seen him typed intj, entp, istp, etc. Thoughts?



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    I don't know his type but I loathe his music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nights and Days View Post
    I don't know his type but I loathe his music.
    Haha, yeah, people tend to either love or hate zappa. There's rarely people who merely like/dislike him or think his music is "okay"

    I've always thought he was a tad bit overrated. Zappa fans tell me I'm just too dumb to get it. Whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Conduit View Post
    Haha, yeah, people tend to either love or hate zappa. There's rarely people who merely like/dislike him or think his music is "okay"

    I've always thought he was a tad bit overrated.
    Overrated? Eh I don't know, maybe not. I haven't really given his work a lot of my time, but I know he's a talented musician, and he deserves the credit he gets for that (I guess), but I mean from what I have heard, his "humour", his singing, and just dumb songs really get on my nerves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Conduit View Post
    Zappa fans tell me I'm just too dumb to get it. Whatever.
    Yeah whatever lol.

    That being said.. I have an INTJ friend who loves him, so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nights and Days View Post
    Overrated? Eh I don't know, maybe not. I haven't really given his work a lot of my time, but I know he's a talented musician, and he deserves the credit he gets for that (I guess), but I mean from what I have heard, his "humour", his singing, and just dumb songs really get on my nerves.

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    Yeah whatever lol.

    That being said.. I have an INTJ friend who loves him, so
    I've never really known where to start. His catalogue is HUGE. I haven't even made it through all of Eno's discography yet. One day I will get into Zappa and it's all I will listen to for weeks. I do that a lot with music. It's how I got into Bowie years ago. It wasn't enough to hear a best of comp--I had to hear every album, every obscure B-side.

    A college friend played some zappa for me once. I kind of wrote it off for similar reasons as you mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Conduit View Post
    Haha, yeah, people tend to either love or hate zappa. There's rarely people who merely like/dislike him or think his music is "okay"

    I've always thought he was a tad bit overrated. Zappa fans tell me I'm just too dumb to get it. Whatever.
    Wut? Rude.

    I'm a Zappa fan -- I might think people are "too dumb to get it" if they don't at least respect him for his musicianship, composition skills, etc, but otherwise I feel like you have to have a particular sense of humor to like him. You don't have to be smart to think "Don't Eat the Yellow Snow" is funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    Wut? Rude.

    I'm a Zappa fan -- I might think people are "too dumb to get it" if they don't at least respect him for his musicianship, composition skills, etc, but otherwise I feel like you have to have a particular sense of humor to like him. You don't have to be smart to think "Don't Eat the Yellow Snow" is funny.
    I have a weird sense of humor... I'd probably love his shit if I took the time to dive into it. Like I said above, when I get into an artist or composer, I usually have to hear EVERYTHING, so I'm a bit nervous.... Zappa made over 60 albums....do I start with the early shit and move forward chronologically or should I start with one of his landmark albums and ignore chronological release order? I haven't undertaken such a massive back catalogue exploration since listening to the complete works of Mozart. Plus there is the issue of finances, assuming I don't pursue illegal means of acquiring his music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Conduit View Post
    I do that a lot with music. It's how I got into Bowie years ago. It wasn't enough to hear a best of comp--I had to hear every album, every obscure B-side.
    Yuup. I'm the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Conduit View Post
    I have a weird sense of humor... I'd probably love his shit if I took the time to dive into it. Like I said above, when I get into an artist or composer, I usually have to hear EVERYTHING, so I'm a bit nervous.... Zappa made over 60 albums....do I start with the early shit and move forward chronologically or should I start with one of his landmark albums and ignore chronological release order? I haven't undertaken such a massive back catalogue exploration since listening to the complete works of Mozart.
    I say start with the landmark stuff and move on from there.

    My suggestions for where to start:
    - Freak Out! (with the Mothers of Invention) and/or
    - We're Only In It For The Money (with the Mothers of Invention)
    - Hot Rats (my personal favorite)
    - Greatest Hits collection (might as well)

    The good thing about starting with greatest hits, with Zappa, is that he has such clear "phases" to his work. Mothers-era Zappa is so different from 80's Zappa, versus late-era orchestral Zappa and Hot Rats-era instrumental Zappa. That way you can get a good idea, starting off, of which phases you like the best, and you can move through the discography that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    I say start with the landmark stuff and move on from there.

    My suggestions for where to start:
    - Freak Out! (with the Mothers of Invention) and/or
    - We're Only In It For The Money (with the Mothers of Invention)
    - Hot Rats (my personal favorite)
    - Greatest Hits collection (might as well)

    The good thing about starting with greatest hits, with Zappa, is that he has such clear "phases" to his work. Mothers-era Zappa is so different from 80's Zappa, versus late-era orchestral Zappa and Hot Rats-era instrumental Zappa. That way you can get a good idea, starting off, of which phases you like the best, and you can move through the discography that way.
    That's how I approached Bowie and Eno. Thanks
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