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Vintage Personalities by MB type

LUBUS

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People,

I'd very much like to extend this list of notorious / vintage personalities for each MBTI type.

Contributions and critiques very much welcome -- especially for the S types.


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INTP- Idealistic Analysts

Albert Einstein
René Descartes
Immanuel Kant
Richard Dawkins



ENTP - Analytical Entrepreneurs

Voltaire
Niccolo Machiavelli
David Hume
Bertrand Russell
Richard Feynman



INTJ- Analytical Visionaries

Friedrich Nietzsche
Ayn Rand
Isaac Asimov
Karl Marx
Vladimir Lenin


INFJ-Compassionate Visionaries

Plato
Dante Alighieri
Karl G. Jung
Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Susan Sontag


INFP-Idealistic Dreamers

Homer
Virgil
William Shakespeare
Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Henry David Thoreau



ENFP- Enterprising Dreamers

Oscar Wilde
Leo Tolstoy


ENTJ- Visionary Directors

Aristotle
Julius Caesar
Napoleon Bonaparte
Joseph Stalin
Margaret Thatcher
Carl Sagan



ENFJ- Compassionate Directors

J.W. von Goethe
Martin Luther King, Jr.



ISTJ- Tough-minded Stalwarts

George Washington
Queen Elizabeth II


ESTJ- Conservative Directors

Henry Ford
Augusto Pinochet



ESTP- Analytical Adventurers

Winston Churchill
Dale Carnegie



ISTP- Adventurous Analysts

Diogenes the Cynic
Clint Eastwood
Bruce Lee



ISFP- Adventurous Artists

Nero
Michael Jackson



ESFP- Sensitive Adventurers

Bill Clinton



ISFJ- Sensitive Stalwarts

Mother Theresa



ESFJ- Sensitive Directors

Harry S. Truman
 

Standuble

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This list is quite good but I have a few (potentially controversial) alternate suggestions for a few of them:

Richard Dawkins - I think he is an NTJ (perhaps ENTJ).

Aristotle - STJ perhaps (he was an empiricist essentially the founder of the scientific method and that system is Si and Te at its core) though he may have just been an INTP with good Si. Admittedly a little bit of a shot in the dark here.

Nero - ESFP - Judging from what I read about him he didn't strike me as much of an introvert (though in regards to accounts of Nero who knows what to believe?) and if he was clinically insane then I don't see how he can be typed.

Winston Churchill - I've seen him typed as an ESTJ but I'm open to an ESTP typing.

Josef Stalin - I've seen him typed as a sensor a few times though some accounts from that time cast a few doubts on it. It may once again be a case of trying to type an insane man.

Oscar Wilde - I've seen an ENTP typing for him before but ENFP is fair enough for me.

Lenin - One of the web pages (the one with the portraits and quotes) types him as an NFJ.

I think that's it. The rest I either agree with or have no data for.
 

LUBUS

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This list is quite good but I have a few (potentially controversial) alternate suggestions for a few of them:

Richard Dawkins - I think he is an NTJ (perhaps ENTJ).

Aristotle - STJ perhaps (he was an empiricist essentially the founder of the scientific method and that system is Si and Te at its core) though he may have just been an INTP with good Si. Admittedly a little bit of a shot in the dark here.

Nero - ESFP - Judging from what I read about him he didn't strike me as much of an introvert (though in regards to accounts of Nero who knows what to believe?) and if he was clinically insane then I don't see how he can be typed.

Winston Churchill - I've seen him typed as an ESTJ but I'm open to an ESTP typing.

Josef Stalin - I've seen him typed as a sensor a few times though some accounts from that time cast a few doubts on it. It may once again be a case of trying to type an insane man.

Oscar Wilde - I've seen an ENTP typing for him before but ENFP is fair enough for me.

Lenin - One of the web pages (the one with the portraits and quotes) types him as an NFJ.

I think that's it. The rest I either agree with or have no data for.


Thanks for the feedback.

R.Dawkins - NTJ ... you're saying that he deals with the «real world» mostly via the Te function. Do you say this because he seems fixed and wholly devoted to the so-called scientific method and because he reeks of militant / non-armchair atheism? ...or some other reason, perhaps?

Aristotle - STJ ... well, his ideas of human cognition and reality clearly point to Extraversion (information in the world goes into mind for calculation and then must come back transformed to the world)...he's not a dominant intuitive type, he lacks the fantasy and full-winged vision of Plato and the like, he's more about stating without ornaments...this makes an ETJ, then...yes, he was mainly an empiricist, he gathered a lot of data over time, which may seem contrary to an ENTJ with their drive to make decision fast and informed by inspiration...on the other hand, he did turn out some speculations more based on abstractions than in rigorous observations (see his views on human reproduction)...still, ESTJ...you might have a good point here.

Nero...ESFP ...yes, he was rather insane...if psychotic, that might confuse us on his being introverted (mentally buffered from the outside world)...we need more clear-cut information on this one.

W.Churchill ... ESTJ ... that would make him a strict director of sorts ... though in my mind, he was more of a very active participant in concrete matters, ordering around coming more from his status as a political leader...still, I confess I don't have more than very basic information on him...for further enquiry.

J.Stalin ... Why preference for S? Because he was highly materialistic? We could have been an EN type just as well...and he based his decisions on ideas and visions rather than personal experienced and time honoured strategies, as far as I know...

O.Wilde ... T type ... I've read many of his works...and he doesn't seem like the type of person concerned with impersonal analysis of what was around him ... he produced more fantastical musings on the nature of beauty and the ugly and the human soul than anything else...

V.Lenin ... NFJ ... well, he's much more likely to be a NJ type ... it has been reported that he was a brooding character and that he instinctively kept distance from the world before interacting with it ... why F? Because he devoted his life to the welfare of the Russian people? I suspect that it did not matter to him as much as competing with the West for a solid political-economical ideology...in private, he displayed a rather cynical and sardonic humour, as told by Bertrand Russell...
 

Standuble

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Thanks for the feedback.

R.Dawkins - NTJ ... you're saying that he deals with the «real world» mostly via the Te function. Do you say this because he seems fixed and wholly devoted to the so-called scientific method and because he reeks of militant / non-armchair atheism? ...or some other reason, perhaps?

Mainly because (from what I've seen of him in action) his whole approach is deductive reasoning while INTPs tend to favour inductive logic. That being said his assertiveness implies confidence and certainty on his part - he knows he is right and wants others to see the light.

Aristotle - STJ ... well, his ideas of human cognition and reality clearly point to Extraversion (information in the world goes into mind for calculation and then must come back transformed to the world)...he's not a dominant intuitive type, he lacks the fantasy and full-winged vision of Plato and the like, he's more about stating without ornaments...this makes an ETJ, then...yes, he was mainly an empiricist, he gathered a lot of data over time, which may seem contrary to an ENTJ with their drive to make decision fast and informed by inspiration...on the other hand, he did turn out some speculations more based on abstractions than in rigorous observations (see his views on human reproduction)...still, ESTJ...you might have a good point here.

I admit I did not have certainty because I don't know the approach he made for his determinations. He may have been an N but saw the necessity for the Si & Te approach for whichever reason. I'll find the time to read Aristotle's works again (it's been nearly ten years for me now) and see if I can come to a better conclusion.

W.Churchill ... ESTJ ... that would make him a strict director of sorts ... though in my mind, he was more of a very active participant in concrete matters, ordering around coming more from his status as a political leader...still, I confess I don't have more than very basic information on him...for further enquiry.

I think he did direct a lot - he essentially told the whole country what to believe and they followed. He essentially ordered them not to surrender and to fight the Nazis on every front if they had to. He was challenged and had no desire to change his mind or back down until either Nazi Germany were defeated or Britain was completely destroyed. He was rigid but also pragmatic - he realised that by changing his views on the Soviet Union after the commencement of Operation Barbarossa he could have an ally to help speed up the completion of his objectives (once the Nazis were losing the war his views of the Soviet Union reverted back to their former state). Whether an ESTP would do that - I don't know.

J.Stalin ... Why preference for S? Because he was highly materialistic? We could have been an EN type just as well...and he based his decisions on ideas and visions rather than personal experienced and time honoured strategies, as far as I know...

Perhaps. However the whole "Socialism in one country" approach to matters implied (at least to me) that he wasn't a global thinker. I would think that an N would see the need to influence the outside and to strengthen the inside as parts of a continuum (much like Trotsky's world view). He could have industrialised the Soviet Union whilst funding revolutionary groups in other countries; even if they fail their respective countries would weaken and Soviet security would be assured. Ignoring the conspiracy theories that Stalin planned to attack the West, I think that had Hitler not attacked (something which surprised him even though the whole non-aggression pact was supposedly to buy the USSR time) Stalin would have just forever maintained it's pre-1939 or 1939-1941 borders indefinitely until it faded away.
 

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Mainly because (from what I've seen of him in action) his whole approach is deductive reasoning while INTPs tend to favour inductive logic. That being said his assertiveness implies confidence and certainty on his part - he knows he is right and wants others to see the light.

Interesting...I've heard that Ti types are the ones big on deductive, rather than inductive, reasoning! Look into this and tell me what you think:


http://www.celebritytypes.com/blog/2013/04/why-te-is-inductive-and-ti-is-deductive/




I think he did direct a lot - he essentially told the whole country what to believe and they followed. He essentially ordered them not to surrender and to fight the Nazis on every front if they had to. He was challenged and had no desire to change his mind or back down until either Nazi Germany were defeated or Britain was completely destroyed. He was rigid but also pragmatic - he realised that by changing his views on the Soviet Union after the commencement of Operation Barbarossa he could have an ally to help speed up the completion of his objectives (once the Nazis were losing the war his views of the Soviet Union reverted back to their former state). Whether an ESTP would do that - I don't know.

You seem to have more information on him...again, there's a good case for ESTJ, but we must take care not to confuse his «role» and his «temperament»...also, ESTPs can extravert their Ti, being mainly E types, thus seeming ESTJs sometimes ... we're sure that he was most pragmatic, but I'm not wholly convinced that he was all that rigid ...

Perhaps. However the whole "Socialism in one country" approach to matters implied (at least to me) that he wasn't a global thinker. I would think that an N would see the need to influence the outside and to strengthen the inside as parts of a continuum (much like Trotsky's world view). He could have industrialised the Soviet Union whilst funding revolutionary groups in other countries; even if they fail their respective countries would weaken and Soviet security would be assured. Ignoring the conspiracy theories that Stalin planned to attack the West, I think that had Hitler not attacked (something which surprised him even though the whole non-aggression pact was supposedly to buy the USSR time) Stalin would have just forever maintained it's pre-1939 or 1939-1941 borders indefinitely until it faded away.

That last phrase of yours , and it makes a better question than sentence...I think the N/S for Stalin hinges on the answers to questions like those. Do you know any good Stalin scholar?...



Any new names for the list, by the way?
 

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[MENTION=20003]LUBUS[/MENTION] - That article is interesting. I will have to rethink my understanding of the two functions. Thanks. I myself don't know of many Stalinist era scholars.

As for new names (I'm assuming you want me to add some of my own rather than pull some potential mistypes from the original list):

INTJ

Augustus Caesar
Hannibal Barca

ENTJ

Mao Zedong
Attila the Hun
Genghis Khan

INTP

Niels Bohr (unsure)
Marcus Aurelius

ENTP

Socrates

ENFP

Joan of Arc

INFP

Anne Frank
Soren Kierkegaard
Hitler (I don't think anyone can determine the truth. Similar dilemma to Nero).

INFJ

Ho Chi Minh (unsure)
Zoroaster/Zarathustra

ISFP

Van Gogh

ESFP

Miley Cyrus

ISFJ

Heinrich Himmler

ISTJ

Cato the Younger (unsure)

ESTJ

Gordon Ramsay

ESTP

Rommel (unsure)
 

Economica

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I don't know whether you're aware of this, LUBUS, but most of the typings on your list correspond to the typings on CelebrityTypes. You'll find lots more typings there. :)
 

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Too much gravitas to be a P, imo.

You're not referring to Richard Harris are you? I meant the real guy and not the character. I've read "Meditations" and it seemed like the sort of thing I could imagine an INTP would write.
 

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You're not referring to Richard Harris are you? I meant the real guy and not the character. I've read "Meditations" and it seemed like the sort of thing I could imagine an INTP would write.

I am referring to Meditations. I wrote a thing about it somewhere around here, maybe I'll find it later. I think he's very J, though I recognize that's my own opinion.

I have not seen whatever you're referring to with Richard Harris (though I bet he'd be a good Marcus Aurelius).
 

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I am referring to Meditations. I wrote a thing about it somewhere around here, maybe I'll find it later. I think he's very J, though I recognize that's my own opinion.

I have not seen whatever you're referring to with Richard Harris (though I bet he'd be a good Marcus Aurelius).

I was referring to a piece titled "Gladiator" - starring Russell Crowe, Joaquin Phoenix and Richard Harris as ...Marcus Aurelius.

I thought he was an INTP because from what I recall Meditations seemed to utilise a fair amount of Fe e.g. defining various lifestyle choices as "good" without referring to why it is good, what makes it good or how one would define good. Compare that to Nietzsche (INTJ) who investigates that very style in "Beyond Good and Evil". But I don't consider myself adept at typing others and all my above suggestions have been coloured by suggestions others have made on various websites.
 
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INTP- Idealistic Analysts

Albert Einstein 5w4
Leonardo Da Vinci 5w4
Abraham Lincoln 9w1
Socrates 1w9
Charles Darwin 5w4

ENTP - Analytical Entrepreneurs

Voltaire 7w8
Oscar Wilde 7w6
Benjamin Franklin 7w8


INTJ- Analytical Visionaries

Friedrich Nietzsche 5w6
Lisa Meitner 6w7
Madame Curie 5w4
Sir Isaac Newton 5w4
Karl Marx 6w5
Adolf Hitler 6w5
Queen Elizabeth I 6w7
Sigmund Freud 5w4
Ludwig Von Beethoven 4w5


INFJ-Compassionate Visionaries

Plato 1w9
Dante Alighieri
Karl G. Jung
Mahatma Ghandi 9w1
Emily Dickinson 6w5



INFP-Idealistic Dreamers

Homer
Virgil 9w1
William Shakespeare 4w3
Jean-Jacques Rousseau 2w1
Henry David Thoreau 1w9
Isabel Myers-Briggs
George Orwell 1w9




ENFP- Enterprising Dreamers
Leo Tolstoy
Mark Twain 7w6
Dr. Seuss 9w1
Charlotte Bronte
John Lennon



ENTJ- Visionary Directors

Aristotle
Julius Caesar 7w8
Napoleon Bonaparte 8w7
Joseph Stalin 8w9
Margaret Thatcher
Carl Sagan
Vladimir Lenin
Cleopatra 8w7



ENFJ- Compassionate Directors

J.W. von Goethe
Martin Luther King, Jr. 1w2
Barack Obama 3w2



ISTJ- Tough-minded Stalwarts

George Washington 1w9
Queen Elizabeth II
Hilary Clinton 1w2
Woodrow Wilson 1w9
Harry S. Truman


ESTJ- Conservative Directors

Henry Ford
Augusto Pinochet
Rockefeller 8w7


ESTP- Analytical Adventurers

Winston Churchill
Dale Carnegie



ISTP- Adventurous Analysts

Diogenes the Cynic
Clint Eastwood
Bruce Lee
Michelangelo 8w7
Amelia Earhart


ISFP- Adventurous Artists

Nero
Michael Jackson 4w3
Raphael Sanzio (painter) 3w4
Pierre-Auguste Renoir 9w1
Marie Antoinette 9w8
Mozart
Chopin (musical composer) 4w5



ESFP- Sensitive Adventurers

Bill Clinton 7w6
Pablo Picasso 6w7



ISFJ- Sensitive Stalwarts

Mother Theresa 2w1
Clara Barton 2w1
Rosa Parks
Jane Addams 2w3


ESFJ- Sensitive Directors

William Howard Taft
Larry King
Ronald Reagan 7w6
 
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