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Garfield

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Garfield: ??TP (probably ISTP) 7w8 Sp/Sx
Jon: ESFJ 7w6 So/Sx
Mom: ESFJ 2w3 So/Sx
Dad: ISTJ 8w9 Sp/So
Doc Boy: INTP? 6w5? Sp/So? (I really have no idea)
Grandma: ES?P 8w7 Sx/So
 

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I believe Garfield's type is indeed ISTP, I have heard ENTP, but it doesn't seem likely.

Nermal : ENFP?
 

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Jon as a Fe/Ne user and a 7w6 makes a disturbing lot of sense.

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ENTP 7w6 So/Sx. Don't confuse apathy with introversion and self-preservation. Garfield has not the non-nonsense practical action oriented style of ISTP and is not specialised in builing safety at all. He's a 7w6 So/Sx like Homer Simpson, he's lazy, irresponsible, narcissit and confident about the future, and completely flaky. He's not a introvert because of apathy, he's an ENTP, a lazy guy who waste his days thinking about vain ideas, he does'nt have problems to initiate contact though. Very similar with Snoopy, who's an ENTP 7w8 So/Sx I think.

Jon is more like an Sp/So: asexual, confort bonds and submissive. 7w6 ESFJ sounds right.
 

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Garfield is InTj who loves to eat lasagna.
 

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Garfield is a lazy, comfort-seeking 9w8, subtype so/sx. MBTI is ISFP.

http://www.ocean-moonshine.net/e142...er_op=view_page&PAGE_id=41&MMN_position=90:80
Social/Sexual

This subtype is "everyone’s friend." The social/sexual energy combines with the Nine's merging tendency and conflict avoidance to create a subtype that is very charming and uses humor quite extensively to engage with the people in their lives. On the down side, they can be frustrating because they can easily lose focus when it comes to their life priorities. With the self-pres instinct last in the stacking, they have a hard time tending to their own needs. They drift, and tend to use their charm to get a lot of their self-pres needs met by the people in their lives. When the Eight wing is dominant, they sometimes even develop a sense of entitlement, though they are just as likely to return help to those they charm into helping them.

In relationships, this subtype can suffer from some of the same problems as the other social subtype. They usually fall into a relationship in which the partner pushes them to "do more" with their lives. This can be positive for both parties, but often ends up causing resentment to build for both partners.
 

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I'm not familiar with Doc Boy but I'm researching some comic strips online. http://www.gocomics.com/mobile/garfield/1983/05/20
Jon - "You know Doc, for brothers we don't look much alike. It's hard to believe we came from the same place."
Doc Boy - "You mean the farm?"

There are two possible explanations for Doc Boy's answer. Either he is very literal-minded, or he was joking. If literal, then he is a Sensor. But Intuitives like to jokingly act like Sensors too, whom they probably perceive to be rather dull. I haven't found any more useful info about Doc Boy.

Edit: Doc Boy enjoys watching socks spinning around in the dryer.
 

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Garfield is a lazy, comfort-seeking 9w8, subtype so/sx. MBTI is ISFP.

http://www.ocean-moonshine.net/e142...er_op=view_page&PAGE_id=41&MMN_position=90:80
Social/Sexual

This subtype is "everyone’s friend." The social/sexual energy combines with the Nine's merging tendency and conflict avoidance to create a subtype that is very charming and uses humor quite extensively to engage with the people in their lives. On the down side, they can be frustrating because they can easily lose focus when it comes to their life priorities. With the self-pres instinct last in the stacking, they have a hard time tending to their own needs. They drift, and tend to use their charm to get a lot of their self-pres needs met by the people in their lives. When the Eight wing is dominant, they sometimes even develop a sense of entitlement, though they are just as likely to return help to those they charm into helping them.

In relationships, this subtype can suffer from some of the same problems as the other social subtype. They usually fall into a relationship in which the partner pushes them to "do more" with their lives. This can be positive for both parties, but often ends up causing resentment to build for both partners.

It makes sense, although 'using charm to get what they want' is a rather funny statement, given Garfield's wide range of tactics and pranks :)
 

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Garfield is a lazy, comfort-seeking 9w8, subtype so/sx.

9s neglect their own needs and merge with the needs of others. Garfield is narcissist, selfish and self-absorbed. He's a 7.

MBTI is ISFP.


No. He's sarcastic and uncaring about feeling and ethics, completely amoral and not oriented toward walu judgement at all. He's a TP, an ENTP precisely.

As usual, you are wrong.

But yeah, he is So/Sx.
 

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9s neglect their own needs and merge with the needs of others. Garfield is narcissist, selfish and self-absorbed. He's a 7.




No. He's sarcastic and uncaring about feeling and ethics, completely amoral and not oriented toward walu judgement at all. He's a TP, an ENTP precisely.

As usual, you are wrong.

But yeah, he is So/Sx.

I'm afraid you will have to be a bit more specific : why ENTP, and not an other TP type?
 

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I'm afraid you will have to be a bit more specific : why ENTP, and not an other TP type?

As I ever said, he does'nt have the non-nonsense action oriented and practical approach of an xSTP at all. He's the one who spend his days thinking about vain ideas and never do something concrete, wich mean that he's NTP. He spontaneously initiates contact and is not consistent and precise in his thinking but more random, then he is ENTP, not INTP. ISFP for him is ridiculous.
 

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As I ever said, he does'nt have the non-nonsense action oriented and practical approach of an xSTP at all. He's the one who spend his days thinking about vain ideas and never do something concrete, wich mean that he's NTP. He spontaneously initiates contact and is not consistent and precise in his thinking but more random, then he is ENTP, not INTP. ISFP for him is ridiculous.

why do you think he's So/Sx and not Sp/Sx? he doesn't think about anyone but himself. So doms want to belong and look after the needs of the group.
 

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As I ever said, he does'nt have the non-nonsense action oriented and practical approach of an xSTP at all. He's the one who spend his days thinking about vain ideas and never do something concrete, wich mean that he's NTP. He spontaneously initiates contact and is not consistent and precise in his thinking but more random, then he is ENTP, not INTP. ISFP for him is ridiculous.

I am NTP and I don't spend my days thinking about vain ideas. And neither does Garfield.

I don't see anything particularly Intuitive about Garfield. And he's very laid back for an extravert.
 

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Garfield seems like an Se dominant; he's in no way Ne dominant, he doesn't seek novelty, new ideas, nor does he branch around various concepts. Instead he's a lazy ass hedonist, which seems evident of Se dom, probably ESTP. 7 or s9 should be somewhat accurate as well, although I'm not sure which fits him the best. Instinctual varient wise, I'm not sure, but sp sounds like it would make more sense.

John as an ESFJ could work I suppose. Enneagram 2w3 perahps? I mean isn't the guy constantly trying to date women and establish a relationship? Just seems to ring of the whole 'love and be loved' type of person, which would indicate 2. Instinctual varient, sx something. Anything other than sx first is . . . just stupid.
 

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Garfield seems like an Se dominant; he's in no way Ne dominant, he doesn't seek novelty, new ideas, nor does he branch around various concepts. Instead he's a lazy ass hedonist, which seems evident of Se dom, probably ESTP. 7 or s9 should be somewhat accurate as well, although I'm not sure which fits him the best. Instinctual varient wise, I'm not sure, but sp sounds like it would make more sense.

John as an ESFJ could work I suppose. Enneagram 2w3 perahps? I mean isn't the guy constantly trying to date women and establish a relationship? Just seems to ring of the whole 'love and be loved' type of person, which would indicate 2. Instinctual varient, sx something. Anything other than sx first is . . . just stupid.

The only question about the 7 or 9 e-type dilemma would be: can a 7 go around acting like a 9? And do it all the time, without fail, the way Garfield does?

Here are the two options you've given for instinctual type 7 Sx:

"Sexual/Self-pres

The energy of the sexual instinct is, in some ways, at odds with the type Seven fixation. The Seven’s focus is future oriented and outward, away from the inner world, while the sexual variant is instinctual and dwells on the inner self as far as relationships and identity are concerned. This combination can make for a Seven that can be Four-like in many ways. They can have a flamboyant style and be very moody and intense. In relationships, there is often a push-pull quality. They are very attracted to the falling in love part. The buzz and high of that is very stimulating to them, almost drug-like for them. Their problems come when that buzz wears off. They want to recreate it again and again, but they also have a way of becoming attached and sometimes very dependent on their romantic partners. On the down side, they can be very clingy but don’t want at the same time to lose their freedom. When unhealthy, they can be very selfish in these relationships, things become one-sided in a way that favors the interests of the Seven.

The sexual/self-pres Seven’s addictive behavior with relationships can extend to other areas, like music, and performing in general. The rock star image and lifestyle can be attractive to the sexual Seven. Many rock stars are sexual Sevens the buzz they experience from music can be similar to what they experience in relationships. Creativity can also function as a release of frustration from the boredom.

Sexual/Social

This subtype has a lot of energy, crazy, intense energy and this energy is going to find a way to manifest. This subtype of Seven can have the biggest extremes in behavior and with material success in life. With the self-pres instinct last in the stacking they aren’t afraid of taking risks, so they sometimes become very successful, as in the case of rock stars, but they typically also take too many risks, look for too many easy ways out. With the self-pres least developed, they can become dependent on others to add a much needed stabilizing element to their busy hedonistic lives. They have many of the same issues and share many of the same problems as the other sexual first subtype with regards to relationship addiction and have even more dependency issues then the sexual/self-pres. They can lose focus and drift similar to the social/sexual subtype and their high energy can likewise be draining for others.

With this subtype, you have drama mixed with mental energy. What separates them from Fours who they might resemble superficially is their planning and future orientation. Their drama and intensity is focused on what they are going to do, not on what has happened. They are usually blind to their past, moving forward and not looking back."

Does that make sense for Garfield? No.

Now if you back up and take a look at my type call above, you can see why the e-type and Instinctual I chose fits Garfield like a glove.
 

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Garfield seems like an Se dominant; he's in no way Ne dominant, he doesn't seek novelty, new ideas, nor does he branch around various concepts. Instead he's a lazy ass hedonist, which seems evident of Se dom, probably ESTP. 7 or s9 should be somewhat accurate as well, although I'm not sure which fits him the best. Instinctual varient wise, I'm not sure, but sp sounds like it would make more sense.

John as an ESFJ could work I suppose. Enneagram 2w3 perahps? I mean isn't the guy constantly trying to date women and establish a relationship? Just seems to ring of the whole 'love and be loved' type of person, which would indicate 2. Instinctual varient, sx something. Anything other than sx first is . . . just stupid.

I agree about John. He really seems like a 2 more than a 7.
 

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Garfield seems like an Se dominant; he's in no way Ne dominant, he doesn't seek novelty, new ideas, nor does he branch around various concepts. Instead he's a lazy ass hedonist, which seems evident of Se dom, probably ESTP. 7 or s9 should be somewhat accurate as well, although I'm not sure which fits him the best. Instinctual varient wise, I'm not sure, but sp sounds like it would make more sense.

John as an ESFJ could work I suppose. Enneagram 2w3 perahps? I mean isn't the guy constantly trying to date women and establish a relationship? Just seems to ring of the whole 'love and be loved' type of person, which would indicate 2. Instinctual varient, sx something. Anything other than sx first is . . . just stupid.

are you saying Ne doms can't be lazy, hedonistic and selfish? if not, I would be SFP all the way :devil:
 

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ENTP 7w6 So/Sx. Don't confuse apathy with introversion and self-preservation. Garfield has not the non-nonsense practical action oriented style of ISTP and is not specialised in builing safety at all. He's a 7w6 So/Sx like Homer Simpson, he's lazy, irresponsible, narcissit and confident about the future, and completely flaky. He's not a introvert because of apathy, he's an ENTP, a lazy guy who waste his days thinking about vain ideas, he does'nt have problems to initiate contact though. Very similar with Snoopy, who's an ENTP 7w8 So/Sx I think.

Jon is more like an Sp/So: asexual, confort bonds and submissive. 7w6 ESFJ sounds right.
This is correct.
 

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I agree about John. He really seems like a 2 more than a 7.

No explanation why? Jon might be a 2, but 6w7 is more likely. Jon doesn't seem like the type 2 Histrionic person, although he has some of the manipulativeness. He likes to party and have fun like a 7, and he dresses in eccentric, flashy clothing when he goes out.

"The traits of the Six and the traits of the Seven reinforce each other. This subtype is more clearly extroverted, more interested in having a good time, more sociable, and, for better or worse, is less intensely focused upon either the environment or itself than Sixes with a Five-wing... [They] frequently monitor the reactions of others to see if they are behaving acceptably."
 

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ENTP 7w6 So/Sx. Don't confuse apathy with introversion and self-preservation. Garfield has not the non-nonsense practical action oriented style of ISTP and is not specialised in builing safety at all. He's a 7w6 So/Sx like Homer Simpson, he's lazy, irresponsible, narcissit and confident about the future, and completely flaky. He's not a introvert because of apathy, he's an ENTP, a lazy guy who waste his days thinking about vain ideas, he does'nt have problems to initiate contact though. Very similar with Snoopy, who's an ENTP 7w8 So/Sx I think.

Jon is more like an Sp/So: asexual, confort bonds and submissive. 7w6 ESFJ sounds right.

If Jon is a J, then he's a very neurotic one.
 
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