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Presidential Hopefuls' Types

ajblaise

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Aren't ENF's often sort of more introspective and all that moreso than other E's?

At first I would think that ENT's are more introspective, but I might agree with you.

But I'd like to hear some of the reasons why people think he's a E.
 

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I would think that ENFPs are more introspective than ENTPs, because for the ENFP to make decisions, they must look within to what they value.

Not sure about Js.
 

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At first I would think that ENT's are more introspective, but I might agree with you.

But I'd like to hear some of the reasons why people think he's a E.

I can't buy INFJ because male INFJ always seem to have this other-worldly look in their eyes and "I come with a sword and not a peace" (totally hot btw), they are like never totally engaged in this world. Obama doesn't give me that vibe.

He also comes accross as too J to be INFP. INFP who starts appearing J will have a hard Te dictatorial edge and he doesn't ...he has this Fe/Ti feel to him. He seems most like EFJ.
 

MissUnderstood

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He's been described as a slightly nerdy, awkward, and aloof person. I think his orator skills might make people assume he's an E, but in more personal settings, he's not quite as comfortable.

You've just described me. I love people and I love talking to people but I can come off quite awkward and aloof because of my iN.


Aren't ENF's often sort of more introspective and all that moreso than other E's?

Yes. People confuse me ALL THE TIME for an introvert just because Im not as extraverted as.. lets say... an ENFP, or ESFJ. Its so annoying.

Obama is Enfj to the max.
 

ajblaise

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I can't buy INFJ because male INFJ always seem to have this other-worldly look in their eyes and "I come with a sword and not a peace" (totally hot btw), they are like never totally engaged in this world. Obama doesn't give me that vibe.

He also comes accross as too J to be INFP. INFP who starts appearing J will have a hard Te dictatorial edge and he doesn't ...he has this Fe/Ti feel to him. He seems most like EFJ.

I think P politicians will often come across as J, because to be a politician you have to project sureness, decisiveness, and resolve. So the way he acts during a speech could just part of the act.

Have you looked at either of his books? Assuming he didn't use ghostwriters, which I doubt, I could definitely believe he's an introvert. INFJ's tend also to be very idealist, which there's no doubt Obama is.
 

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ENFJ are also idealists, but more Fe geared in their visions. We have some fine examples here on the board, Pink, Looking4bestinU and Protean. They are idealists.

Clinton was P and didn't come accross as J.
 

Apollanaut

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I'd guess McCain as ENTJ and Obama as ENTP.

ENTJ is the classic Presidential type, even George W Bush is an ENTJ (ENTJ doesn't mean you have to be clever!).
 

ajblaise

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Clinton was P and didn't come accross as J.

Yeah that's true. But it's not like he ever showed uncertainty much and a reluctance to come to conclusions. Maybe when you have a 160 IQ and are great with people you don't need to act like a J to get people to follow you.
 

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Yeah that's true. But it's not like he ever showed uncertainty much and a reluctance to come to conclusions. Maybe when you have a 160 IQ and are great with people you don't need to act like a J to get people to follow you.

P means inner directed in judgement not indecisive.
 

ajblaise

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P means inner directed in judgement not indecisive.

J/P is about how people relate to the outside world, and P types tend to keep options open more than J's, I don't think it necessarily means indecisive.
 

Jack Flak

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Look up ^ for my previous reasonings.

It's important to consider he was a military man, and not a PhD in Astro-physics. Lest we forget the impact environment has.

If you look at his stances on issues, they're NT/SP, but his consideration of all available input, among other things, leads me to have a solid opinion of INTP for the man.
 

The_Liquid_Laser

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Overall I'd say

Obama - ENTP

McCain - ESTP

Hillary - INTJ

Johnny Cash - ISTP

If you look at his stances on issues, they're NT/SP, but his consideration of all available input, among other things, leads me to have a solid opinion of INTP for the man.

Considering all available input is a trait of a dominant perceiver. This reason you give actually means that he can't be an INTP.
 

Jack Flak

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Considering all available input is a trait of a dominant perceiver. This reason you give actually means that he can't be an INTP.
Oh he can't? Sorry I blew up about it then. /sarky. Or perhaps I could phrase it better and say "sees all sides of the issue."

He's also a slight space cadet, one more for INTP in my mind.
 

Mondo

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Wouldn't a typical SP want to be a space cadet for the adventure?
I could only see SJs objecting.
 

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no way, no way, no way!
McCain is the poster boy for ISTJs!
 

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LOL. I'm thinking those against a particular candidate are refusing to allow a two-preference similarity between he and themselves.

"No way is McCain NT, he's an ass!"
 

Salomé

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LOL. I'm thinking those against a particular candidate are refusing to allow a two-preference similarity between he and themselves.

"No way is McCain NT, he's an ass!"

and your point is?
 
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