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    Judging from the fact that all 8 N types beat all 8 S types, it seems pretty evident that the tests used test only giftedness in N-oriented tasks.

    It's no surprise that Ns outperform Ss in these areas. What's the significance? And who says N-oriented tasks are more representative of true giftedness than S-oriented ones?


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    What exactly are they worth, then? And if they're not worth much, why should us kiddos weep upon reading them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Judging from the fact that all 8 N types beat all 8 S types, it seems pretty evident that the tests used test only giftedness in N-oriented tasks.

    It's no surprise that Ns outperform Ss in these areas. What's the significance? And who says N-oriented tasks are more representative of true giftedness than S-oriented ones?
    true... If I beat you up and take your money, where's the good in being able to obtain it! :yim_rolling_on_the_
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Remember, I don't run willy nilly outside the box.

    I can see those statistics for exactly what they're worth.
    You should try running with your willy nilly outside the box. It may be worth wild.
    Im out, its been fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    But I think it does point to the fact that IQ tests point to something.

    None of this is perfect, and it all gets muddled when you examine it too closely (as does most everything), but I think we can all agree that there is some kind of trait that we could call general intelligence, and that IQ tests -- properly administered, best in childhood -- are at least somewhat, albeit not entirely, accurate at pointing to whether one is of below, around, or greater than average intelligence, and, to a certain extent, how much below or how much greater than average one might be.

    It ain't perfect, but most things aren't...
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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    You should try running with your willy nilly outside the box. It may be worth wild.
    I would suggest doing so naked
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    My answer would read something like this.
    All of that rests upon an arbitrary assumption that puzzle-solving ability is representative of general intelligence.

    Why should that be the case?


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    I would suggest doing so naked
    What would a lowly ESTP like me have to do to get a brilliant INTJ like yourself to run around naked?
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    I would suggest doing so naked
    Ok, but only after he runs around with just his willy nilly hanging out.
    Im out, its been fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    Ok, but only after he runs around with just his willy nilly hanging out.
    ok... that should work out well

    after all... he IS an ESFP today... he should take advantage of that and have some fun!

    and I KNEW that penises would be mentioned in this thread again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    ok... that should work out well

    after all... he IS an ESFP today... he should take advantage of that and have some fun!

    and I KNEW that penises would be mentioned in this thread again!
    lol, your a bad influence
    Im out, its been fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    lol, your a bad influence
    don't blame me... blame the topic! It's like the south, it shall rise again!

    really terrible pun intended
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