Type Punk Rock

[Quinlan]

"Punk" seems to be a vague combination of NF idealism and SP rebelliousness. Some fans/bands seem NFish, they stay "true" to DIY ethos and completely free from the "system", while others seem more SPish having fun, rebelling for the heck of it and are ok making money while they're at it. This is an obvious source of conflict/resentment. Do you think this split could be influenced by temperament as I've shown?

Have a go at typing some punk musicians and bands...

What type was Joe Strummer? AWESOME?

 

[Moiety]

IXFP

 

[Nonsensical]

"Punk" seems to be a vague combination of NF idealism and SP rebelliousness. Some fans/bands seem NFish, they stay "true" to DIY ethos and completely free from the "system", while others seem more SPish having fun, rebelling for the heck of it and are ok making money while they're at it. This is an obvious source of conflict/resentment. Do you think this split could be influenced by temperament as I've shown?

Have a go at typing some punk musicians and bands...

What type was Joe Strummer? AWESOME?

I really like Punk- I'd label Rage Against the Machine punk, ONLY because it matches what you described, not for how it compares to other punk. I find common ground between SP rebelliousness and NF idealism, as I have both in me..

Fuck the system! Fuck the corporate world!

 

[Lexicon]

I just watched The Ramones documentary a few weeks ago. End of The Century.

Trying to type them... ohh Dee Dee.



Yeah. I'd say Joe Strummer was AWESOME..

 

[Domino]

"Punk" seems to be a vague combination of NF idealism and SP rebelliousness. Some fans/bands seem NFish, they stay "true" to DIY ethos and completely free from the "system", while others seem more SPish having fun, rebelling for the heck of it and are ok making money while they're at it. This is an obvious source of conflict/resentment. Do you think this split could be influenced by temperament as I've shown?

Have a go at typing some punk musicians and bands...

What type was Joe Strummer? AWESOME?

My 2 cents: the Clash

Joe was an INFJ.

Mick - ESTP (and totally hilarious... also a creative genius)

Paul - ISFP (why he was so chill and artistic and sweet)

Other people like say, Henry Rollins, I would guess as an ESTP, along with Johnny Rotten. Billy Idol, ESTP. Anyone else think Sid Vicious was an ISFP?

I think that punk got it's fuel and fire power from SPs, frankly. Who else would want to change the world and actually have the chops to do it?


NOTE: totally with your estimation, Quin!

 

[ajblaise]

Punk is an ESTP flailing his arms to a chord progression written by an INFJ.

 

[Quinlan]

Joe was an INFJ.

Yes I've thought so too, why do I idolise INFJs so often?

I think my favourite Joe Strummer wannabe Tim Armstrong is an ISFP.

Punk is an ESTP flailing his arms to a chord progression written by an INFJ.

Haha that's good.

 

[wolfy]

Iggy Pop IS*P

Can't make up my mind.

Iggy Pop wikiquote

 

[dynamiteninja]

Billie Joe Armstrong is an ENTP.

 

[simulatedworld]

Billie Joe Armstrong is an ENTP.

He's just one of those melodramatic fools.

 

[Lexicon]

Ok I'm going to give this a whirl...

Johnny Ramone - ISTJ

Dee Dee Ramone - ESFP

Joey Ramone - either INFJ or IxFP

Tommy Ramone - I'm having a bit of trouble. I'd say ESTJ or ENTJ.

Marky Ramone - ENxP?

The other drummers... ehh.

 

[nanook]

true street punk is vomited by estp + istp, but luckily there is also nice punk, which ranges all over NF


attached rancid :steam:

and Tom DeLonge (enfp)

 

[nanook]

i sort of like turbonegro. cant type them though

(they have such a great sound. along with hellacopters, gluecifer and backyard babies, but they are more entertaining)

never want to be in a room with any of them

 

[Moiety]

Who else would want to change the world and actually have the chops to do it?

Wait, are we still talking about punk rock?

Pat Smear, anyone?

 

[nanook]

punks are supposed to kill themselves with drugs.
-> What We Do Is Secret (2007)
(not the best movie, but nice clishee acting by shane west)

hippies change the world. except, when they forget about it, the other day.

 

[Unwod]

i sort of like turbonegro. cant type them though

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Hank von Helvete = ENFP

Happy Tom = ENTP

Euroboy = isfp

 

[nanook]

this is german punk rock icon campino (die toten hosen)

should be easy to type by his well defined face
(if you had any reference).

another entp?
there is something about him, that makes me think of sensing. like mccain. he is also borderlining feeling. and why do i have to think of kenau reeves?

he likes to be seen as philosophically inclined, but did his punk duty (almost killed himself with drugs, before he became a popular late night talk show guest).

 

[nanook]

this is zimbl, singer from "the bates", probably the second best-known punk band in germany. (died, not sure how)

 

[Domino]

Yes I've thought so too, why do I idolise INFJs so often?

Because he was a rare beautiful human? He's the [only] idol I've got, so I know what you mean.

INFJs can take on a mythical aspect when they're really clicking. I assume it's their internal Aragorn complex?

I really loved watching "Westway" because I got to know Paul and Mick better. Paul is adorable. Talk about sensitive, tough-minded, and artistically alive. He's responsible for their strong reggae influences. ISFPs can be such mysterious benevolent characters. Plus he was always adding visual interest to their look. The boy went to art school, after all.

I didn't mention Topper, but he's ISFJ, I think?

(BTW, I'm listening to "Cool N Out" in your honor, Q! )

Wait, are we still talking about punk rock?

Pat Smear, anyone?

Richard Hell? X? The Damned? Suicide?

Probably all STPs.

 

[Moiety]

Richard Hell? X? The Damned? Suicide?

Probably all STPs.

My point being none of them actually changed the world

I have a sort of love/hate relationship with punk. Some of them are such deluded posers it's not even funny. And punk is very much about the "soul" of it, for me. [/babbling]

-> What We Do Is Secret (2007)
(not the best movie, but nice clishee acting by shane west)

hippies change the world. except, when they forget about it, the other day.

lol, yeah

Did you know Shane West is going to be the new vocalist for The Germs in real life?