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George W Bush

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Anyone who thinks he is a moron doesn't pay much attention.
What a horrifically unacceptable attitude. I find it very offensive to reply to my comment in a matter that is - impersonal, indirect, vague,impartial and has accomplished nothing. You haven't even expressed an opinion, stated a fact or otherwise. You aren't anymore knowledgeable for dismissing someone.

You had a chance to backup what you said - and to school those not in the know accordingly. You failed. Even an ENTP which is a type I loathe, has not festered to the point of NOT schooling the ignorant. - Quit frankly, by this point I don't like you either. Kiss my blacklist.

And because I've been paying attention -

1. Nukular.
2. Bushisms
3. He looks like a monkey.
4. He dodged the shoe.
5. Whatever happened to Afghanistan?!
6. Irac was unnecessary.
7. Bush is a war monger.
8. Bush was the end all ambassador of the US to the world, and he failed with his cocky attitude.
9. Bush is unbecoming of a President in both speech, mannerism.
10. Bush be damned, his cabinet was just as bad as he was.


The first four are grounds to call him a moron, the rest were just a bonus for my amusement.
 

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What a horrifically unacceptable attitude. I find it very offensive to reply to my comment in a matter that is - impersonal, indirect, vague,impartial and has accomplished nothing. You haven't even expressed an opinion, stated a fact or otherwise. You aren't anymore knowledgeable for dismissing someone.

Yes, because saying "we can all agree he's a moron" accomplished SO MUCH.

You had a chance to backup what you said - and to school those not in the know accordingly. You failed. Even an ENTP which is a type I loathe, has not festered to the point of NOT schooling the ignorant. - Quit frankly, by this point I don't like you either. Kiss my blacklist.

Oh well. Guess I'll go hang myself, since I have no reason to go on living now.

And because I've been paying attention -

1. Nukular.
2. Bushisms
3. He looks like a monkey.
4. He dodged the shoe.

1. He just says that to piss you off.
2. A lot of very intelligent people make frequent mistakes when engaged in public speaking.
3. Completely irrelevant to whether someone is moron or not.
4. This would be #1 for reasons why he's NOT a moron. He's got good reflexes/dodging skills.

Since you admitted the rest are irrelevant, I won't bother to respond tho those. You could have gotten all of that off a poster somebody was holding at an anti-Bush rally, so a complete fail on convincing me that you have been paying attention. :newwink:
 

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Bush isn't a moron; he's just a very poor extemporaneous speaker. (Aren't Se doms supposed to be good at that, btw?)

He scored 1260 or whatnot on his SATs and he did manage to get through Yale, albeit with a C average. I suppose it's a little easier to get in when your daddy is head of the CIA, but if he was honestly a complete idiot, he would not have gotten through it.

I don't think he was a particularly good president, but he's honestly not an idiot. A lot of his public mannerisms are faked for the sake of pandering to the demographic where he scores the highest ratings--good old southern, traditional values conservatives. It shows that he's in touch with the common man, apparently.

These people are generally distrustful of government and men in suits ordering them around, so they feel much safer having "one of their own" in the white house. It's calculated for a reason--if you think he's a total moron for his public speaking mistakes, then you're not part of the demographic his public persona is designed to reach, anyway.
 

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Speaking of Hillary. That woman is an abomination - an INTJ with no vision aside from a drive to be in power. I am so fucking glad she will never become President.

No vision? Just because you don't happen to agree with her vision doesn't mean that she has no vision. :doh:
 

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Yes, because saying "we can all agree he's a moron" accomplished SO MUCH.



Oh well. Guess I'll go hang myself, since I have no reason to go on living now.



1. He just says that to piss you off.
2. A lot of very intelligent people make frequent mistakes when engaged in public speaking.
3. Completely irrelevant to whether someone is moron or not.
4. This would be #1 for reasons why he's NOT a moron. He's got good reflexes/dodging skills.

Since you admitted the rest are irrelevant, I won't bother to respond tho those. You could have gotten all of that off a poster somebody was holding at an anti-Bush rally, so a complete fail on convincing me that you have been paying attention. :newwink:

I don't think Bush is a moron at all. He's just a self-absorbed asshole.
 

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Bush isn't a moron; he's just a very poor extemporaneous speaker. (Aren't Se doms supposed to be good at that, btw?)

He scored 1260 or whatnot on his SATs and he did manage to get through Yale, albeit with a C average. I suppose it's a little easier to get in when your daddy is head of the CIA, but if he was honestly a complete idiot, he would not have gotten through it.

I don't think he was a particularly good president, but he's honestly not an idiot. A lot of his public mannerisms are faked for the sake of pandering to the demographic where he scores the highest ratings--good old southern, traditional values conservatives. It shows that he's in touch with the common man, apparently.

These people are generally distrustful of government and men in suits ordering them around, so they feel much safer having "one of their own" in the white house. It's calculated for a reason--if you think he's a total moron for his public speaking mistakes, then you're not part of the demographic his public persona is designed to reach, anyway.

Yes. This.

I'm just a common man, drive a common van, my dog ain't got a ped-i-gree. :D
 

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Maybe the uncomfortable speaking style is a sign of introversion?

How about this? Would an ESTP get distracted easily when doing something they wouldn't want to be doing (in other words, when they'd rather be doing something else)?
 

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Maybe the uncomfortable speaking style is a sign of introversion?

How about this? Would an ESTP get distracted easily when doing something they wouldn't want to be doing (in other words, when they'd rather be doing something else)?

I think it is possible that W. is an introvert. He may have chosen politics just because that's what his entire family does.
 

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And in case anyone wants to accuse me of being partisan, I would also point out how silly it was if anyone tried to say Bill Clinton is stupid too. There's a reason these guys get to positions of power, and it ain't all luck.
Is there a Skip to Jeffster's Informed, Reasonable Opinion Button?

As for his type, I think SP, but the E/I and T/F are hard to figure with him.
Agreed. ISTP. Dead giveaways are the nicknames and differences between private and public speaking (coarse, effortless/affected, halting).
 

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No vision? Just because you don't happen to agree with her vision doesn't mean that she has no vision. :doh:

What was her vision? Aside from an insatiable quest for power and pandering to popular opinions?
 

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Not even close to the "most stupid." Probably the most effective executive the Texas Rangers had, and one of the most effective (and well-liked) governors that Texas has ever had, and elected twice as president of the United States.

And in case anyone wants to accuse me of being partisan, I would also point out how silly it was if anyone tried to say Bill Clinton is stupid too. There's a reason these guys get to positions of power, and it ain't all luck.

As for his type, I think SP, but the E/I and T/F are hard to figure with him.

Let's be honest here, Jeffster. If it wasn't for his daddy, Dubya would be a Subway customer service operator.
 

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Bush isn't a moron; he's just a very poor extemporaneous speaker. (Aren't Se doms supposed to be good at that, btw?)

He scored 1260 or whatnot on his SATs and he did manage to get through Yale, albeit with a C average. I suppose it's a little easier to get in when your daddy is head of the CIA, but if he was honestly a complete idiot, he would not have gotten through it.

I don't think he was a particularly good president, but he's honestly not an idiot. A lot of his public mannerisms are faked for the sake of pandering to the demographic where he scores the highest ratings--good old southern, traditional values conservatives. It shows that he's in touch with the common man, apparently.

These people are generally distrustful of government and men in suits ordering them around, so they feel much safer having "one of their own" in the white house. It's calculated for a reason--if you think he's a total moron for his public speaking mistakes, then you're not part of the demographic his public persona is designed to reach, anyway.
Seems to me all this social engineering did was work against him.

[Edit] C'mon, Americans are dumb, but not THAT dumb.
 

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I vote ESFJ too, because only an ESFJ would be comfortable acting and pretending to be a buffoon for 8 years. Just look at mercury and his rediculus blue man avatar!! what the hell goes on in those ESFJ heads anyway?
 

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Haha they seem to have this really goofy sense of humor, but it's cute a lot of the time.
 

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Not even close to the "most stupid." Probably the most effective executive the Texas Rangers had, and one of the most effective (and well-liked) governors that Texas has ever had, and elected twice as president of the United States.

And in case anyone wants to accuse me of being partisan, I would also point out how silly it was if anyone tried to say Bill Clinton is stupid too. There's a reason these guys get to positions of power, and it ain't all luck.

As for his type, I think SP, but the E/I and T/F are hard to figure with him.

Good point--anyone who makes it to the highest office of power in the nation (and probably the world) is going to be at least reasonably intelligent--do you guys have any idea how competitive running for president is? Nobody that gets that far into the power structure of a country this big and powerful is a moron.*






*except Reagan
 

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He's an ExSP monkey. Thats as clear as day-light. Also i wouldin't be quick to conclude him as unintelligent. He's just very clumsy and haphazard mentally in Se manner, which shouldin't be confused with stupidity, which is a slight mental retardation.
 
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