Joseph Stalin

[Jack Flak]

Lenin VI=ENTP?

Edgar VI=INTJ.

 

[Edgar]

What's V.I. anyway?

 

[Eldanen]

So what is Edgar's V.I. type?

I've never seen a photo of Edgar.

 

[Eldanen]

V.I. ?

Are you talking about this guy?

I've seen that guy before. He looks like an ESTp.

 

[Edgar]

I've never seen a photo of Edgar.

lol

I've seen that guy before. He looks like an ESTp.

LOL

 

[Eldanen]

lol



LOL

Care to enlighten me?

 

[Edgar]

Care to enlighten me?

There is a picture of me in this thread (the color one)

And the black and white picture in this thread is that of a guy who is responsible for the creation of a country which your avatar symbolizes.

 

[Eldanen]

Oh, that guy's Lenin. Go figure.

I can't VI you by that photo. At least not yet.

 

[Cimarron]

V.I. = Visual Identification, I think. In other words, figuring out someone's MBTI type visually, just by looking at someone.

 

[Edgar]

V.I. = Visual Identification, I think. In other words, figuring out someone's MBTI type visually, just by looking at someone.

Yeah, it's that socionics voodoo science isn't it?

 

[Eldanen]

Yeah, it's that socionics voodoo science isn't it?

Body language doesn't exist either, for those who don't know to look for it.

 

[Edgar]

Looks like Peguy got my VI joke, but then decided to delete his post.

oh well

 

[The Ü™]

I don't understand why people doubt that V.I. exists and yet they don't doubt that MBTI theory exists.

 

[Edgar]

Body language doesn't exist either, for those who don't know to look for it.

There is a lot of biology behind the body language.

But I have trouble believing that bone structure goes hand in hand with a certain type of a personality. Perhaps there a slight things noticeable on a face (such as wrinkles) than can be indicative if one is more likely to be an extravert or an introvert, but to make a prediction of one's type based on the shape of their skull seems a bit far fetched.

 

[Eldanen]

There is a lot of biology behind the body language.

But I have trouble believing that bone structure goes hand in hand with a certain type of a personality. Perhaps there a slight things noticeable on a face (such as wrinkles) than can be indicative if one is more likely to be an extravert or an introvert, but to make a prediction of one's type based on the shape of their skull seems a bit far fetched.

Well, it all depends on how deep you look. Most people who study MBTI don't really comprehend the functions on a very deep level. They stop at surface characteristics.

"Step bump, step bump bump." - CollegeHumor video - have a free humorous example of an esfj-si subtype cop.

 

[Edgar]

Well, it all depends on how deep you look. Most people who study MBTI don't really comprehend the functions on a very deep level. They stop at surface characteristics.

"Step bump, step bump bump." - CollegeHumor video - have a free humorous example of an esfj-si subtype cop.

Oh God please tell me it's real.
That'd be so awesome.

 

[Eldanen]

Oh God please tell me it's real.
That'd be so awesome.

Duh. It's real .

 

[Blackwater]

In Jungian terms, Stalin is almost certainly an ETJ with Te commandeering the rest of his psyche.

It appeared that Stalin maintained good, even unnecessary use of his Sensing function while in power but as other posters have already covered he was not at all lacking in Intuition either. The question is: Once we have established Te as the all-permeading trait of Stalin's psyche and also that he had mastery of both sensing and intuition, is it really important? I think too rigid an application of MBTI might lead us astray here; rather, to understand further facets of Stalin, look at people like him. Look at Saddam Hussein, also an ETJ with Te all over the place, also a grand strategist, he is even a fellow bank robber!

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In Keirseyan terms, Stalin would clearly be considered an NT, if only because of Keirsey's somewhat derogatory characterization of SJs. So leave Keirsey out of this or expect a visit from the Cheka.

 

[yenom]

You have to be careful about blanket statements like "INTJs don't rob banks" or "he hated authority therefore not SJ". Try to take things in a context.

Stalin's father was an abusive alcoholic who couldn't hold a job, and Stalin grew up in lawless country. These kind of surroundings can be viewed as a lack of proper authority in the SJs eyes, resulting in the disdain of such environment, not a hatred toward authority in general.

Stalin's own way of running the country was through extreme micromanagement, which is not exactly a way someone who resents authority would operate.

I did not made that uip Edgar, I read it somewjere in a book, although i could not find the sourve.

Stalin hated authority because his father beated him often, and this transformed to a general hatred towards anyone that yields power over him.

Although i agree with your point of Sj disdain of the enviroment, to say that stalin is a ESTJ just because he exhibits Te in his dictartorship is too vague.
Anyone running a country would need some sort of Te to maintain order,

Stain is aq complex character, and his machieveillian tendencies does not correspond to SJness.

The hardest thing to put into perspective is whether stalin is a J or a P. His plotting to remove trosky has demonstrated amazing flexibity and calculated planning, this seemed not very J.
Furthermore,. his admiration for Koba ( a ficitional russsian outcast like robinhood) also seem unJi, as Js favor order chaos. Stain seems like one who follows his own code of rules trather than the rules of socirety.

 

[Sol_]

ISTJ