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    You’ve got to hand it to MIT economist Jonathan Gruber. The guy dubbed the “Obamacare architect” is a viral YouTube sensation. A few months back, he was caught on tape admitting that Obamacare doesn’t provide subsidies for federally-run insurance exchanges; it’s now the topic of a new case before the Supreme Court. Today, new video surfaced in which Gruber said that “the stupidity of the American voter” made it important for him and Democrats to hide Obamacare’s true costs from the public. “That was really, really critical for the thing to pass,” said Gruber. “But I’d rather have this law than not.” In other words, the ends—imposing Obamacare upon the public—justified the means.

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    Obamacare’s opacity was a deliberate strategy

    Gruber made an argument that many of Obamacare’s critics have long made, including me. It’s that the law’s complex system of insurance regulation is a way of concealing from voters what Obamacare really is: a huge redistribution of wealth from the young and healthy to the old and unhealthy. In the video, Gruber points out that if Democrats had been honest about these facts, and that the law’s individual mandate is in effect a major tax hike, Obamacare would never have passed Congress.

    ACA Architect: 'The Stupidity Of The American Voter' Led Us To Hide Obamacare's True Costs From The Public - Forbes

    Hacks, please tell me how this was taken out of context and how he didn't say what he said.
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    Hey, it's an increase in equality among the already poor.

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    "He calls it a speako, kinda like a typo"

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    We get the politicians we deserve.

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    The problem with obamacare is that its too much influenced by the capitalist way of doing things in usa. Because of so many money hungry companies coming between the governments funding and people actually healing other people, the cost of obamacare is way too high to make sense. If i remember correctly, everything(like all meds etc) costs about 10 times more with obamacare than for example the healthcare given in finnish by the government.

    But its not the obamacare to blame, it tries to do the right thing, its the capitalist system that is to blame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    The problem with obamacare is that its too much influenced by the capitalist way of doing things in usa.
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    Sigh.

    It's crony capitalism not capitalism.

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    "The problem is not that he said it. The problem is that he thinks it. The core problem under the damn law is it was put together by a bunch of elitists who don’t fundamentally understand the American people. That’s what the problem is.” -Howard Dean
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    "The problem is not that he said it. The problem is that he thinks it.
    Definitely.

    His video wasn't about a single off-the-cuff gaffe about the stupidity of the American people; it was about how he believes that the law's lack of transparency and comprehensibility was a good thing because, well whatever, it allowed the law to be passed.
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