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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    The Senate would never oust the OH-Bammy after the House impeachment passes.

    As for Obasmacare, even if it flops, it's still a foot in the door for something similar in the future.
    We need healthcare reform, so something will eventually be done.

    The ACA in my estimation will live on in some form, however Republican input will eventually happen.

    The program as it stands won't work well enough to address the problem, so we'll come up with something.

    The only way that will happen is if both sides get to take credit for it. That wont happen until both sides get to play a real role in its creation.

    Once we figure out our budgetary issues, we will then need to game out how to put humpty dumpty back together (health care reform).

    The scope of the problem will necessitate that it gets dealt with in at least the mid term political horizon. If it doesn't happen by 2016 and we take the WH (which is entirely possible, if libertarian populism continues its rise [go Rand]), we will eviscerate it and replace the internal machinery with what we want.

    The only way neither of those things can happen, is if the Dems can get enough buy in on their own to make the program work.

    That is why I say this program is all about buy in. Any why consequently, it's important that you guys weren't accepting Republican amendments during the legislative sessions that created the ACA.

    So yea, it doesn't work to keep half the countries representative out of the legislative process on programs that need buy in from the whole country, not just dem voters, to work.
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    The thing about these dirty tactics right wingers in the US are using, impeachment or obstruction and government shut downs, is they are undemocratic and anti-democratic, it means that their political ideology is becoming a niche, niche affair, just as they laid exclusive claim to the wealth and funnelled it to a smaller and smaller number of people the people prepared to believe their BS are as smaller and smaller number.
    All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
    Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

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    Its cuz hes black.
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    Bleached, he should be bleached!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Bleached, he should be bleached!
    That didnt keep Jacko from being sued for his money!
    And now there came out of this building a form - human - was it human? ... It reminded me of symbolical images of Genius or Demon that are seen on Etruscan vases or limned on the walls of Eastern sepulchres - images that borrow the outlines of man, and are yet of another race.

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    Michele Bachmann's opinion carries as much weight with me as Jerry Falwell's did. Nutcases.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Michele Bachmann's opinion carries as much weight with me as Jerry Falwell's did. Nutcases.
    You're more of a Jim Jones type of gal then?
    All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
    Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

    whether or not you credit psychoanalysis itself, the fact remains that we all must, to the greatest extent possible, understand one another's minds as our own; the very survival of humanity has always depended on it. - Open Culture

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    You're more of a Jim Jones type of gal then?
    How did you know.
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    I didn't think clinton should have been impeached. Oh boohoo men have been getting their dick sucked by people that are not their wives since the beginning of time. I say we impeach people from life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    How did you know.
    Original cool aid beats cool aid lite?
    All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
    Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

    whether or not you credit psychoanalysis itself, the fact remains that we all must, to the greatest extent possible, understand one another's minds as our own; the very survival of humanity has always depended on it. - Open Culture

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