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    I think the site linked in the OP goes too easy on North Korea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    There's a British joke about France.

    When God created countries, he gave France the most romantic landscapes, the ideal climate, the most fertile soils, the perfect geographic location. It was the most beautiful country of all. So to make things even and fair, God created the French.

    It's very true somehow. It's no wonder why France is the most visited country on earth. But you have the French populating it, one of the grumpiest people on earth, never able to realize how incredibly lucky they are, always complaining about anything.
    To be honest, we have the same "joke" in Italy about...ourselves :P

    Look at the stereotype of the French... obsessed with consumption and material wealth, rude, arrogant, believe they represent the height of civilization, etc. Does it remind you of any other national stereotype?
    Mm. This is definitely not the stereotype of the French, as far as I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    To be honest, we have the same "joke" in Italy about...ourselves :P
    Probably. But the question would be then "where is this joke coming from?". The joke I quoted is British, because English are often so jealous and so obsessed about France that French-bashing has become a kind of national sport amongst their popular medias.

    Nonetheless, it would not suprise me. Despite the obvious superficial differences, Italy and France are the closest countries, culturally speaking.
    We may not smile as often as Italians do, but we understand them. Fluently.


    Mm. This is definitely not the stereotype of the French, as far as I know.
    I agree. Culturally arrogant and prideful, yes, probably. But preoccupied with consumption and material wealth???

    The common trait between the US and France would be that both cultures tend to assume that their way of life is universal, is desirable and should be imitated everywhere. Unlike the scandinavians or the japanese, they do not think they are intrinsically superior per se, but just that they have the best moral intentions and that it can justifies anything, especially when they try to save the world (Messiah complex).

    Nonetheless, I'd say that France is learning from its tragic failures at doing so, and thus is behaving more and more like a grown-up state, while our American brethren are still in their infantile state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post

    I agree. Culturally arrogant and prideful, yes, probably. But preoccupied with consumption and material wealth???
    What about stuff like fine wine and cheeses, fashion, etc... that's what I'm thinking of? A different aspect of it, to be sure, but still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habba View Post
    According to this study, Finland is the least failed state in the world (3rd year in a row). Other statistics also suggest that Finland (and other Nordic countries) consistently tops these kind of international comparisons.

    What's your (country's) excuse?
    With the size of our economy, our ability to quell global strife via force projection, and the unique freedoms we enjoy we don't need one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    What about stuff like fine wine and cheeses, fashion, etc... that's what I'm thinking of? A different aspect of it, to be sure, but still.
    That's not material wealth, it's "fine" consumption. It's exactly on the opposite of the cultural spectrum when compared to mass consumption and new-rich status symbols such as villas, SUVs. etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    With the size of our economy, our ability to quell global strife via force projection, and the unique freedoms we enjoy we don't need one.

    Murrica bitches.
    Thank you for proving my point, when I referred to the "infantile state" of our American friends, culturally speaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    That's not material wealth, it's "fine" consumption. It's exactly on the opposite of the cultural spectrum when compared to mass consumption and new-rich status symbols such as villas, SUVs. etc.
    And if two cultures would really know and enjoy what "fine consumption" means, indeed, it would be Italy and France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    Thank you for proving my point, when I referred to the "infantile state" of our American friends, culturally speaking.
    It's hard to hear you over ruling the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    It's hard to hear you over ruling the world.
    Do you really think America still rules the world?

    My Chinese friends would certainly be amazingly delighted to hear that.
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