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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    Hopefully Valiant can explain this for me, but why was it it ok for Europeans to colonize Africa and Asia, but it's not ok for Africans and Asians to immigrate to Europe?

    I'm also trying to wrap my head the idea that the Holocaust didn't happen, but boy the Jews had it coming, but that wasn't national socialists, those were diseases. Amazing.
    I am not saying that it was okay, and I do not think it IS okay.
    Personally, I think all the white south africans should move back to Europe, where they belong.
    The whole thing is just one huge clusterfuck, and instead of endless revenge killings it should be ended.
    There is no need to be enemies, as long as everyone gets what's theirs and the possibility of a future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant View Post
    That's sad, but it's history. All enemies have always vilified each other, whether on extremely local basis between warring clans or larger scale.
    Also, that's a novel. How much crap isn't made up about "evil nazis" on a daily basis?
    It has nothing to do with what we think. We want to unite the white race, and this is just pointless and petty.
    Celts, Germans and Slavs were the same people not too long ago, and we all have that blood that connects us.
    Yeah, its a novel which did its home work, its set in a Germany post Nazi victory in WW2 in which Albert Speer's visions and much of the Nazi social programmes have been successful, a very good work and the "we're all whites together" idea comes apart pretty quickly.

    As for the condescending remarks about me not having read "any real cultural marxists"...
    I used to be a card-carrying member of the communist party, and I was raised in a red family.
    You know this, or at least you should. We used to talk.
    I'm not sure if you're the same person I'm thinking off, if what you say is true that's something I'm sorry to hear about, although, if its the same person, I remember you swinging between central planning and anarchy so I'd hope this isnt your final destination politically either.

    We also had a library at home, so I have both had access to most major political works and more importantly: I have read them.
    When we didn't have a book, I would borrow it from the city or school library.
    It was actually reading Karl Marx that made me go "something's not right here ".
    First time I read the collected works of Karl Marx was when I was eight. Back then I just read and accepted.
    Second time was in 2007 or 2008. This time with critical thinking.
    I'll not split hairs with you about Marxism, the guy had some good ideas but largely his work needs to be considered as a reflection of himself, his times, context is everything and he's part of a good critical appraisal of economics as ideology which had predecessors and inheritors which he's unfortunately eclipsed for the most part.

    So I stopped being red, while retaining the healthy parts of socialism, the non-marxist/non-materialist parts.
    You're a roman catholic yourself. I also remember what your views used to be about a bunch of stuff...
    Like feminism, homosexuals etc. You've got some serious doubts about your own views, and that's why you're going at me with the whole attitude thing.
    I dont have that much doubt about my own views beyond healthy doubts, ignorance isnt bliss and you have to revise your views when you have fresh insights, I've not been as changeable in my opinions as you appear to have been but perhaps I was more so when I was younger, like yourself. My views about feminism, homosexual and my religious faith havent changed in a long, long time.

    If there's been any "attitude" its because I know what the white nationalists and white seperatists here and in the UK mean, they mean "up against the wall muthaf*cka" for me and a firing squad for anyone like me.

    I know it is high status to be red and radical, but it's just a group-pressure thing.
    Trust me, I am not doing what I do because I derive any sort of acceptance or self-confirmation for it.
    What I get out of what I do is that I am right, and I am fighting for truth and the very existence of my own people.
    For a couple of years, it has been a living hell. Now, things are much brighter and we are seeing real results.
    I reckon that's my experience too but I know that you're not going to accept it, I'm more culturally conservative than I am culturally marxist, I'm not sure what's meant by that, the actual cultural marxists I've read were not helpful in explaining anything but they were better than the prejorative label which is thrown about for anyone who is not part of the right wing "in group".

    I know I will get some even worse response now. I have a slight hope that you won't react that way, because I know you can think when you want to.
    But I realize the chances are slim. I won't judge you for being rude now, as long as you think about what I have said. Even if you don't admit to it now.
    I strongly recommend "My Awakening" by Dr. David Duke, to begin with. Please, read it, check the facts and mull it over.
    Truly, I wish I hadn't wasted my time on so much communist literature when I was younger. Hadn't ever read a nationalist or national socialist book until I was 24.
    I've considered the seperatists and ethno-nationalists at length, I wouldnt be caught dead reading Davy Duke, he's no real Dr. and as an American Klansman he'd be another fan of suppression or genocidal bloodshed against Roman Catholics, hes right up there with Ayn Rand and the author of the Turner Diaries, which I did read and thought were a sort of second rate action novel.

    I've read as many black nationalists and seperatists as white ones, I've read the zionists too, I've read the national bolsheviks, Francis Yockey, the decline of the west conspiracy theorists, the ethnic nationalism by another name which exists in China in which they claim that ethnic chinese are a seperate race to the rest of the human race on the basis of archeology and artifacts they think support the idea of a seperate ancestoral lineage from the apes to man.

    I'm not interested in anything any of them have to offer, they're intriguing, in the same way maybe that reading about fads and fashions in thinking among medieval or middle ages religious orders or communities would interest me but as a firm guide action in my day to day life or orientation towards life and subject of devotion those modern ideologies are not rival to religion, tradition, philosophy and humanism.

    At first, I was incredibly critical but curious. Then, to my dawning horror, I realized "Crap... These guys are right.".
    I felt ashamed, and now I am repenting for that. I used to be brainwashed, but seeking truth set me free.
    And even if it's a much harsher place to be, it is more fulfilling to truly believe in what you do with heart and soul the way I do.
    I wish you luck on your search and I'd encourage you not to stop long were you are now.
    All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
    Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

    whether or not you credit psychoanalysis itself, the fact remains that we all must, to the greatest extent possible, understand one another's minds as our own; the very survival of humanity has always depended on it. - Open Culture

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlip View Post
    I always wondered how anybody in this world can maintain a point of view like this. I guess most of the facts and reasoning processes have been put on a mental 'ignore list'.
    I'm in two minds to be honest about adopting a dismissive view of these ideas, when they're articulated by the left wing or historically oppressed minorities they're generally considered acceptable, if misguided, when they're articulated by anyone else its a very different story, there are terrible historical legacies and back drops to be considered but particularly during crisis these ideas catch on.

    The comic movie Iron Sky was cool in that it satirically highlighted the extent to which the establishment in some liberal democracies behaved with the same strong arm tactics as fascists did years ago, usually in more devious ways, also that nazis could be as idealistic and mistaken as anyone else.

    I support the idea that radicals need to be policed socially and the "no platform" idea was popular for a while, the full on discussion and debate one has been more popular since the net came along, filter bubble and all maybe but I do find them no more prefidious or mendacious or wicked than Ayn Rand or other minority political struggles to be honest and I really mean that.
    All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
    Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

    whether or not you credit psychoanalysis itself, the fact remains that we all must, to the greatest extent possible, understand one another's minds as our own; the very survival of humanity has always depended on it. - Open Culture

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