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    Yo....Romney is far more likely to appoint judges with at least moderate originalist leanings, and he is more likely to prioritize economic recovery and technocratic economic management, instead of concentrating on pet regulatory and social programs at the expense of jobs, growth, and the deficit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swordpath View Post
    The rhetoric that every liberal is spouting.
    I'll be sure to tell my conservative friends they're spouting "liberal rhetoric."
    No doubt, they'll find your comment as amusing as I do. Lol.

    Frankly, it's a little stupid and melodramatic.
    If you want melodrama, go to the thread you started where you flipped out about a comic book character being homosexual.

    I don't think Romney has made any hint that he intends to overturn Roe v. Wade.
    If he did, I'd suggest he be put in a straitjacket. He doesn't have the authority to overturn a U.S. Supreme Court decision.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post

    If he did, I'd suggest he be put in a straitjacket. He doesn't have the authority to overturn a U.S. Supreme Court decision.
    Then what's the fear, ole chap?

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    I dont think that either Romney or Obama can work alone against the trade deficit America may be feeling more and more in the future that would be the american people who need to. Call me a socialist (tho I am a redneck liberal) but I think you are placing far too much importance on one person alone. Surely the american president has a lot of power but lets face it, after Obama got elected, the people got disappointed. After Bush got elected, people shamed for him. So do you think when now Romney or Obama will be elected, both having promised a lot, people wont be disappointed again ?

    Its a neverending circle imo and the political discussion is just opium for the masses. I could be wrong on that but I am pretty sure that I am right with you being disappointed again later on.

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    I am going to vote for Romney just because the states that support Obama got hit by the hurricane.

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    Here's one more personal experience I want to give you. In the past america has been a prosperous country. i am not too fond in american history but I think no president ever was able to introduce something like social welfare, at least not for long (correct me if I am wrong). Now in the moment of great distress, when the country basically is bankrupt someone comes and says we'll spend even more money and give out social welfare. Thats strange and there are only two reasons:

    Reason 1) Russian people call that a "potemkin village". that is a metaphor for someone who was formerly rich still pretending to be rich. Thats the name they gave the new statue my hometown build, tho the town is more than bankrupt.

    Reason 2) Social welfare isnt what we think it is. So far as a normal thinking citizen, you'ld think that social welfare means the state has to pay more money than it already does. But is that so ? Social welfare has come a looooooooooong way in my country and nowadays I pay every month $650 for my "welfare" which get directly discounted from my paycheck. So lets assume I'ld be working for 47 years, until age 67, I'ld be paying $366,600 of social welfare. Then lets say - in my country live around 80 million people - lets say 40 million of them are working. That makes $14,664,000,000,000 they'll be paying in 47 years. Imagine you as a state would have only a third of that as fixed assets and two third as circulating assets. Imagine how much yield could be made here. Shares, maybe buy a small terror state, new gold reserves; basically welfare is new money for the state and Obama knows that. Since there are even more people working in the States, there will be even more money.

    Since 'welfare' has grown so badly in my country, where you pay and pay and pay a lot monthly but eventually when you need it you do not fulfill the requirements to receiver it, I am pretty liberal about this. Obama surely is doing good to the nations bank account with welfare but if he's helping the people is another question. You'ld have to decide on that, welfare brings a lot of good things as well, like no more people starving or dieing on the streets. I personally would rather live in a country without welfare and save a bullet in my gun until the day when I really need a doctor.

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    I already voted for Obama. Boo ya.

    But that said, I'm cynical about the political system and think it's so messed up right now anyone who gets in can't do a whole lot of good; fortunately they can't do a whole lot of harm just by themselves, but the rest of Congress and companies and such can. It's a complex thing. I don't pretend to understand the system, but I think fewer people really do than think they do. There are so many things which influence outcomes.

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    *silently raises hand*

    Basically what SD45T-2 said, but I almost never identify with Democrats over Republicans, even though I don't really consider myself a Republican.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swordpath View Post
    Then what's the fear, ole chap?
    None exists. I was making fun of Rombush.
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    Voting for Romney.

    1. Obamacare raised the costs of hiring workers, and thus slowed the jobs/economic recovery; it never should've been a priority in this environment.
    2. Obama has a poor understanding of economics and business, and utilizes a rhetoric that regularly demonizes success.
    3. I don't think Obama or the Democrats will make the necessary reforms to our entitlement system.
    4. I think, despite what leftists want to make him out to be, Romney is a pragmatic moderate.
    5. I think Romney has a strong understanding of economics and business, and his policies and vision are more likely to lead to an economic recovery.
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