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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchies View Post
    THE END IS NIGH! hide yoh kids hide yoh wife!
    These threads are nothing if not entertaining
    All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
    Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

    whether or not you credit psychoanalysis itself, the fact remains that we all must, to the greatest extent possible, understand one another's minds as our own; the very survival of humanity has always depended on it. - Open Culture

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    Victor you throw around the word enlightenent a bit too much. What exactly do you mean by it?
    In the larger picture the Enlightenment is one of the four pillars of Western Civilization.

    The four pillars are - Ancient Greek philosophy, Judaism, Christianity and the Enlightenment.

    The West underwent the Enlightenment in the 17th and 18th centuries.

    And the Enlightenment gave us almost everything we take for granted such as modern medicine, modern economics, liberal democracy, science and technology. The Enlightenment also gave us the abolition of institutional slavery, the emancipation of women and the prosecution of child sexual abuse. And as well the Enlightenment was sealed with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in 1948.

    The slogans of the Enlightenment are, evidence and reason, and the greatest good for the greatest number.

    Both Judaism and Christianity have made their accomodation with the Enlightenment, but alas, Islam never underwent the Enlightenment and today publicly and openly rejects the Enlightenment in rejecting the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

    We also have pre-Enlightenment cults such as astrology, mbti, creationism, intelligent design, homeopathy, belief in miracles, enhanced interrogation and rendition.

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