Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
You're still stuck thinking in terms of freedom from sanction or consequences, what about free to achieve, accomplish and be rewarded?

Most of the behaviour which warrants legal sanction is not difficult to avoid, its also, to an extent not difficult to behave in a way which incurs rewards too.

I believe in soft determinism so there are some who are fortunate to have influences or determinants in their lives which positively advantage them but I dont accept complete or hard determinism and the abscence of choice and decision making.
It may seem like I am picking a fight, but I still feel that what someone wants to achieve might not correspond with a societies ethics. In which case this freedom to achieve and accomplish (can be done) but is prohibited.