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    consequences would be, personally, too adverse to consider
    Then maybe the social benefit enjoyed by society in having you not pursue that behavior outweighs your desire to do whatever you want.
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    @xisnotx
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    Then maybe the social benefit enjoyed by society in having you not pursue that behavior outweighs your desire to do whatever you want.
    For that society, sure...

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    My very effective strategy so far...which is why laws confuse me. I'll end up doing whatever I want to anyway...so why do people take them so seriously?

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    so why do people take them so seriously?
    Because the consequences can be a killer.

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    ^DB is flexing his authoritarian muscles. Helps to think that way in DC.

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    I brought up a question at work. I asked them if they thought freewill was being able to examine all your choices, or be able to act upon them. They did not agree with my response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    I brought up a question at work. I asked them if they thought freewill was being able to examine all your choices, or be able to act upon them. They did not agree with my response.
    http://news.yahoo.com/free-illusion-...210401902.html
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    The brain is not a single-purpose organ, so the idea that its decisions are determined only by chemestry/genes cannot be accurate. Because it has an open-ended functionality, and is responsive to the environment, and most importantly, possesses consciousness, there cannot be a direct line between physical forces and decision making.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xisnotx View Post
    For that society, sure...

    ^^
    My very effective strategy so far...which is why laws confuse me. I'll end up doing whatever I want to anyway...so why do people take them so seriously?
    Its called giving a damn and not being selfish.

    When you grow up I'm sure you'll understand. Save this thread for reference.
    All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    I brought up a question at work. I asked them if they thought freewill was being able to examine all your choices, or be able to act upon them. They did not agree with my response.
    Free will is personal responsibility and personal responsibility is being accountable for the predictable consequences of your actions, your actions are your words and deeds.
    All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
    Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

    whether or not you credit psychoanalysis itself, the fact remains that we all must, to the greatest extent possible, understand one another's minds as our own; the very survival of humanity has always depended on it. - Open Culture

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