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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    *shrug* I saw the episode and didn't even realize the censorship was imposed, I thought it was part of the gag until now.

    It's not like they didn't make Jesus look like a damned fool either (watching internet porn, for example), you know -- at least they're fair. Which helps with the idea they're just poking fun at sacred cows.
    But like I said I couldn't care less about Jesus or Mohammed or any other icon.

    It is just an issue of inflaming tensiosn with Muslims at a time when this can only have negative consequences for the great majority of ordinary Muslims (and in fact all people of Persian, Arabic or Middle Eastern/Central Asian appearance, who are treated as Muslims even if they aren't), who will be caught between the condemnation of them by the radicals for not reacting, and of the majority of society for not condemning the radicals.

    It's really not the same with Christians as not all Christians come under suspicion when tensions are inflamed between the hardliners and the majority of society.

    I don't care what Parker and Stone's intentions are, I care about the consequences of people's actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    So the jihadi make death threats and we are to blame?
    Of course! What right do they have in intimidating us? Continue! *Boom*

    It's a matter of rational choice, not blind freedom fighting. It's a matter of how much of our freedom they interfere with. If it doesn't do much, then consider adapting to their rigidity, if it does however inflict greater damages, what should we do? Create a large scale attack against a dispersed group?

    Actually, perhaps these threats are nothing...

    I do agree with the fault lying on their hands. There will always be choice, no matter how stupid or emotionally vulnerable you are.

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    kendoiwan, I thought the end of that article was particularly striking.

    This is what decadence looks like: a frantic coarseness that “bravely” trashes its own values and traditions, and then knuckles under swiftly to totalitarianism and brute force.

    Happily, today’s would-be totalitarians are probably too marginal to take full advantage. This isn’t Weimar Germany, and Islam’s radical fringe is still a fringe, rather than an existential enemy.

    For that, we should be grateful. Because if a violent fringe is capable of inspiring so much cowardice and self-censorship, it suggests that there’s enough rot in our institutions that a stronger foe might be able to bring them crashing down.
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