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    Default How offensive is the word "goy"?

    I'm wondering, as we were discussing offensive words for groups yesterday at school. I have heard some people get really offended by it, but I have a feeling that they didn't know what it meant.

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    Somebody once called me their "sabbath goy" because I helped them do something on a Saturday. I got the impression it was used affectionately, merely as shorthand for "non-Jew." No "member of the wrong religion" implications, and not derogatory like whitey or cracker.
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    Yup. It means "not jewish", its offensivity depends on the context.

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    Don't laugh, but I can't even say I've ever heard the word before now.

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    I've read the word in books and know it means gentile, but I haven't ever heard anyone call anyone else that (WASPsville around here, I guess). I imagine I would only consider it offensive if the person saying it appeared to mean offense.
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    I'd never heard the word before and was thinking "fusion between guy and boy?"

    it would depend on the context, I'm guessing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silently Honest View Post
    Don't laugh, but I can't even say I've ever heard the word before now.
    <- I'm not laughing at you! But seriously, I had to look the word up from a dictionary this very moment.

    I guess it really does depend on the context the word is used to assess how offensive it can be. Among the "in-group" it's definitely different than using it deliberately to offend somebody.

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    I've never even heard of the word before and was about to be really anal-retentive and fix the "typo" in the title.
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    Goy is Yiddish for gentile. I would consider "Sabbath goy" a compliment because your friend was acknowledging you helped her out. Among Jews it can be used to mean "not one of us" but it's generally not a derogatory term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jae Rae View Post
    Goy is Yiddish for gentile. I would consider "Sabbath goy" a compliment because your friend was acknowledging you helped her out. Among Jews it can be used to mean "not one of us" but it's generally not a derogatory term.
    That's the best description of it I've read.
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