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    We are moving towards the union of Australia, Britain, Canada, and New Zealand, called CANZUK.

    We will share free trade and the free movement of citizens. Each of us will retain our sovereignty.

    Each of us shares the common Head of State in Elizabeth II. We share a common legal system, and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, each of us is a multicultural nation, and we all share a common language, English, each practises liberal democracy, and each is prosperous with low unemployment, and each provides free medical care for all, and we enforce our strict gun laws, already we share diplomatic policy.

    With the USA we already share what is considered the finest Intelligence Service. Our economy will be the third biggest in the world, and our military will be high tech and well trained to keep freedom of the oceans, and peace keeping throughout the world. We will be a nuclear power with nuclear submarines we build ourselves, which is important for the defence of Australia.

    And the Sun will never set on us, but most of all we will be stable, so every year we will get better and better.

    Of course we can expect opposition from the Left at home and from authoritarian States abroard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    We are moving towards the union of Australia, Britain, Canada, and New Zealand, called CANZUK.

    We will share free trade and the free movement of citizen. Each of us will retain our sovereignty.

    Each of us shares the common Head of State in Elizabeth II. We share a common legal system, and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, each of us is a multicultural natio, and we all share a common language, English, each practises liberal democracy, and each is prosperous with low unemployment, and each provides free medical care for all, and we enforce our strict gun laws, already we share diplomatic policy,
    Can you see anything problematic with what you just wrote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Can you see anything problematic with what you just wrote?
    Yes. the Left will say we are racist and capitalist, but each of us is a multicultural society, and we practice democratic capitalism rather than corporate capitalism, and in each country a substantial majority are in favour of CANZUK.

    This is union whose time has come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Yes. the Left will say we are racist and capitalist, but each of us is a multicultural society, and we practice democratic capitalism rather than corporate capitalism, and in each country a substantial majority are in favour of CANZUK.

    This is union whose time has come.
    That's not a problem with your post, at most that's a problem with someone else.

    The left you're talking about is a bogey and doesnt exist.

    Do you think that nationalists in each of the countries that you mention will want a supranational union given that they have worked so hard to break away from other supranational unions, like the European Union?

    Asking the questions you should be Mole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    That's not a problem with your post, at most that's a problem with someone else.

    The left you're talking about is a bogey and doesnt exist.

    Do you think that nationalists in each of the countries that you mention will want a supranational union given that they have worked so hard to break away from other supranational unions, like the European Union?

    Asking the questions you should be Mole.


    My "problem" with the original post is more on the level "Don't you guys already have that for the most part?".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    That's not a problem with your post, at most that's a problem with someone else. The left you're talking about is a bogey and doesnt exist. Do you think that nationalists in each of the countries that you mention will want a supranational union given that they have worked so hard to break away from other supranational unions, like the European Union? Asking the questions you should be Mole.
    That is a good question Lark but we will decidedly not have a supranational body governing us like the European Union, each will retain our sovereignty under Elizabeth II, and each of us will make our own laws.

    It feels like coming home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual ghost View Post
    My "problem" with the original post is more on the level "Don't you guys already have that for the most part?".
    Not at all I am an alien in Britain, Canada. and New Zealand, although Australia does have a free trade agreement with New Zealand and limited movement of citizens. CANZUK already speaks of Australia and New Zealand as a model for CANZUK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Not at all I am an alien in Britain, Canada. and New Zealand, although Australia does have a free trade agreement with New Zealand and limited movement of citizens. CANZUK already speaks of Australia and New Zealand as a model for CANZUK.


    Well you already share Elizabeth II, plenty of history, the language, the nukes are already build, you share all kinds of treaties ....
    I mean it isn't that all of this is some sort of ground braking idea. This is more of a "let's sort out the details". But ok, I don't mind. You are not my enemies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual ghost View Post
    My "problem" with the original post is more on the level "Don't you guys already have that for the most part?".
    I think Mole is tapping the alt right keg/barrel at the moment some this is the dream of the White Anglo-Saxon Protestant political union AKA return of the British Empire.

    Its the "camp fire" where US trailer park fans of the confederacy can be on good terms with the coke heads in Westminister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    That is a good question Lark but we will decidedly not have a supranational body governing us like the European Union, each will retain our sovereignty under Elizabeth II, and each of us will make our own laws.

    It feels like coming home.
    In what way did the EU govern? What's your understanding of Subsidiarity and how it operates? How does sovereignty work when you're subject to the Queen of England?

    It feels like the usual confusion Mole. You need to spend a bit more time thinking about things.

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