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    I seen clips of them hauling them away by train the other day. Sad shit.

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    As I said a number of times: when you sum everything up modern China as institution is basically new Nazi Germany . Even if they are quite careful about not being seen in that way.
    While in everything that has to do with personal freedoms their numbers are quite low and logic is focused on constant growth and expanding. What is textbook totalitarian approach.
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    And it could so easily happen anywhere.
    Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cat View Post
    And it could so easily happen anywhere.

    Actually this kinds of stuff are happening more often that most people think.
    On large scale political level it isn't ultra common but on smaller scales and once you take 3 steps away from "civilization" it really isn't that rare.







    Regarding the topic my local ex Communist government also used to do stuff like this regarding various religious groups and people who they saw simply as "problematic". There are even stories that they send journalist to prison for a few weeks/months before giving them a job. So that they don't write "shit".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual ghost View Post
    Actually this kinds of stuff are happening more often that most people think.
    On large scale political level it isn't ultra common but on smaller scales and once you take 3 steps away from "civilization" it really isn't that rare.







    Regarding the topic my local ex Communist government also used to do stuff like this regarding various religious groups and people who they saw simply as "problematic". There are even stories that they send journalist to prison for a few weeks/months before giving them a job. So that they don't write "shit".
    Sadly all to true and that's just the statistics they know of to report
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cat View Post
    Sadly all to true and that's just the statistics they know of to report

    That is kinda exactly my point, every widely present problem can only be presented as statistics in the end (if you want to count all elements of a problem).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual ghost View Post
    That is kinda exactly my point, every widely present problem can only be presented as statistics in the end (if you want to count all elements of a problem).
    Perhaps, though that's not exactly my point. The statistics of tragedy is like splitting hairs on a corpse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cat View Post
    Perhaps, though that's not exactly my point. The statistics of tragedy is like splitting hairs on a corpse.


    It isn't if it makes something happen about it. What is generally hard or unlikely until you have a defined problem, what is hard without some form of statistics.
    The problem is usually in the people that are blocking solutions, not the statistics itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual ghost View Post
    It isn't if it makes something happen about it. What is generally hard or unlikely until you have a defined problem, what is hard without some form of statistics.
    The problem is usually in the people that are blocking solutions, not the statistics itself.
    There's rarely ever just one problem.
    Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals.


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