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Sure but herd immunity is worldwide so this is a pointless statement. With so many people without access to the vaccine, not showing up for a second dose or refusing it all together, it's going to keep on mutating and herd immunity will never be reached.


I have said that myself a number of times. However this still helps since locally life can return to some form of normal and I already see that we are planning reserves of vaccines, which will be given with time in order to maintain local immunity until the whole world clears of pandemic. There should be third dose, fourth dose .... etc.


If we consider how things are right now I would take this over how they are now. After all at this point it is obvious that we will be solving the world part by part. Plus in the case of severe mutations there will be complete travel bans. Not pretty but it will have to do.
 

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India +379 500


Therefore even if we presume that they somehow found all infected today and that mortality in current messy situation is just 2%, that is still over 7 000 dead people in a few weeks from now.
My local media say that Indian variant is detected outside of India in a number of countries at this point.
 

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The virus is slaughtering its way through India, and Africa is next on the list.

Our nearest neighbour Papua New Guinea has a big problem with the virus. We offer them medical advice and a million doses of the vaccine, unfortunately they have a religious belief against the vaccine, so we will see more slaughter in Papua New Guinea.

Interestingly, religion does seem to facilitate the virus, in first world countries like the USA, and third world counties like Papua New Guinea.
 

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India's neighbors on alert for 'double mutant' COVID variant


In other words if the variant is out of the country it will spread all over the map and especially neighboring countries. What is exactly what is being observed here. Plus these are all low income high population density countries where the spread of the aggressive variant is easy to achieve. Plus if country with 160 000 000 people is doing 35 000 tests a day that just isn't enough in this situation. Not to mention that mass vaccination still didn't start in most of these countries. Plus it is worth mentioning that neighboring Myanmar is in the state of civil war at this point due to recent coup. Therefore if the new variant comes in the whole country with 54 million people will be infected before you know it.


Therefore since this is part of the world that is full with not overly stable countries all of this could create some serious domino effects. Especially since the variant is already detected on some other continents.
In other words this is why you must not allow people to get infected in the first place, since that is rising odds that this will happen.
 

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The virus is just getting going, and there is so much about the life span of the virus we don't know, meanwhile the virus is eyeing Africa.

It might be the best country in the world to be in the time of plague, is Oz.
 

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India's neighbors on alert for 'double mutant' COVID variant


In other words if the variant is out of the country it will spread all over the map and especially neighboring countries. What is exactly what is being observed here. Plus these are all low income high population density countries where the spread of the aggressive variant is easy to achieve. Plus if country with 160 000 000 people is doing 35 000 tests a day that just isn't enough in this situation. Not to mention that mass vaccination still didn't start in most of these countries. Plus it is worth mentioning that neighboring Myanmar is in the state of civil war at this point due to recent coup. Therefore if the new variant comes in the whole country with 54 million people will be infected before you know it.


Therefore since this is part of the world that is full with not overly stable countries all of this could create some serious domino effects. Especially since the variant is already detected on some other continents.
In other words this is why you must not allow people to get infected in the first place, since that is rising odds that this will happen.



The spill into neighboring Nepal is obvious.

Worldometer Nepal
 

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Some thoughts on the issue.


 

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What's up with Canada and Norway? Any idea why these extremely wealthy and relatively well-run countries ar expected to take longer than the USA or the EU?




Well, the data could be obsolete for individual countries at this point. Plus it is possible that they put way too much money and expectations on AZ vaccine, something that cost my country to be quite late in vaccination effort. Therefore now with some remaking of the distribution and the change of plans within EU we are catching up with the average. What possibly doesn't work for those two countries. Plus regarding Canada: I heard they are dependent on imports at this point, what can be problematic in the current situation.
 

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What's up with Canada and Norway? Any idea why these extremely wealthy and relatively well-run countries ar expected to take longer than the USA or the EU?

Not sure about Norway but Canada is entirely dependent on foreign sources for vaccines. Their domestic vaccine manufacturing capability has been hollowed out for a long time now.
 

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Not sure about Norway but Canada is entirely dependent on foreign sources for vaccines. Their domestic vaccine manufacturing capability has been hollowed out for a long time now.

Yes this is very true.
 

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Today thus far the world has registered 676 000 cases, out of that 412 000 are in India (plus there is almost 4000 registered covid deaths there).
 

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Austria is first and therefore it is in the bottom of every month. On top of Austria is Belgium ..... etc.
Bigger countries basically dominate the graph.
 

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They vaccinated 60% of the people and results are already good.
That in combination with masks and some social distancing probably can be be enough to end the pandemic. As long as people don't start to party the moment it seems that there are no new cases locally the pandemic will end. Since this is all about closing the path to the virus, once you close the path the pandemic will quickly start to fade.
 

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