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Julius_Van_Der_Beak

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Since I saw someone bring up that Corona has a 99% survivability rate and it's stupid to do anything to prevent people from catching it if it interferes with the way things used to be, I thought I'd share this.

Fact check: Does COVID-19 have a mortality rate of 1%-2%?

A 1% mortality rate “means it is 10-times more lethal than the seasonal flu,” Fauci said. “I think that’s something people can get their arms around and understand.”
 

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But they sell ice cream. I think they may be dramatizing the fact they close every October due to winter and lack of customers.

:laugh: initially I'd thought the same, however, apparently they are also a greasy spoon diner that's open year-round. Probably no big loss, either way.
 

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People's Savings Are Down To $0 Because Of The Pandemic


As the coronavirus pandemic creeps toward its eighth month in the US, millions of Americans are coping with an economic catastrophe that they couldn’t have planned for; some like Adams have watched their account balances run down to zero. Working people who cautiously adhered to advice to save enough to cover three to six months of living expenses, a so-called emergency fund, are being decimated by a crisis that is dragging on far longer than that. Some have lost their homes.

They face the unsettling reality that no matter how hard they try, their ability to make it out of this is mostly out of their hands. There’s a belief that people can achieve financial security if they just work hard enough, that being poor is a kind of moral failing. But the crisis has shown that this is a myth. People are realizing now what those in precarious situations have long known: that so much of it is out of your control.
 

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Since I saw someone bring up that Corona has a 99% survivability rate and it's stupid to do anything to prevent people from catching it if it interferes with the way things used to be, I thought I'd share this.

Fact check: Does COVID-19 have a mortality rate of 1%-2%?


True.
But just for the record: this is missing one important part. Mortality of 1-2% works only if healthcare system doesn't get overrun with large number of cases. Therefore if that happens mortality goes very drastically up.
 

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True.
But just for the record: this is missing one important part. Mortality of 1-2% works only if healthcare system doesn't get overrun with large number of cases. Therefore if that happens mortality goes very drastically up.

Not to worry. The invisible hand of the market will guarantee that resources are efficiently distributed in a crisis. Consider the ease with which people could find toilet paper last spring. Much better than the socialist system of centralized planning when people couldn't find basic necessities in the stores.

This isn't mystical voodoo but hard-nosed pragmatism supported by facts, data, and logic.
 

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Pandemic Fatigue Is Just Exhaustion in the Face of a Failed State | The New Republic

Over the last few months, as the anxiety and despondency that accompanies prolonged social isolation has deepened, medical professionals have offered various tips and tricks for people combating coronavirus-induced malaise. “Create some predictable routines,” the Vanderbilt University Medical Center advised. “Focus on managing the things you have control over.” Likewise, UCLA’s hospital network urged, “Usher more joy into your days by creating new traditions. You’ll have something fun to look forward to and you might even decide to keep it up once the pandemic has passed.” As Colette Shade wrote here earlier this month, though such advice might be well-intentioned, and occasionally even useful, positive thinking alone won’t remedy our national pandemic fatigue. There’s no single switch that can flip it on or off, of course. But a functioning, minimally humane government would be a good start.
 

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Welp, there you have it ... Germany will go into a second lockdown. Starting on monday, it will be a "lockdown light" version based on some lessons learned in spring. Merkel and the governors seem to have agreed on the main points:

- schools, kindergardens and educational institutions will remain open as much as humanly possible (their closure was one of the most complained about aspects of the first lockdown)
- retail stores will remain open (obviously with compulsory masks, etc as has been the case since late april)
- hairdressers will remain open
- restaurants will be limited to take-away service or have to close down
- cinemas, fitness and sport studios and cultural/entertainment places will close (not because they tend to be places of infection but to hammer down the point that people aren't to meet their friends! This is one of the more controversial points)
- offices and places of industry remain open but homeoffice is to be pushed
- PRIVATE MEETINGS ONLY BETWEEN UP TO 10 PEOPLE FROM NO MORE THAN TWO HOUSEHOLDS (as was the case during the lockdown in march/april) - this is one of the most effective tools against the virus if compliance is sufficient
- financial support for businesses suffering as a direct consequence of the lockdown
- mask wearing in public buildings like stores and in some public open spaces as well as on public transport has already been compulsory for months and obviously remains so


The RKI's official number of daily new infections is currently at 14.906, but there was yet another technical problem with the data transmission last night.
 

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It's sad to hear of more school lockdowns and recent correlated suicides, especially since the lockdowns are not supported by the epidemiology data.


CDC Director Compares Rate of Suicides to COVID-19 Deaths

Center for Disease Control Director Robert Redfield said in a Buck Institute webinar that suicides and drug overdoses have surpassed the death rate for COVID-19 among high school students. Redfield argued that lockdowns and lack of public schooling constituted a disproportionally negative impact on young peoples’ mental health.

"But there has been another cost that we’ve seen, particularly in high schools," Redfield said. "We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID. We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID. So this is why I keep coming back for the overall social being of individuals, is let’s all work together and find out how we can find common ground to get these schools open in a way that people are comfortable and their safe."

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...a doctor at John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek, CA claimed the facility has “seen a year’s worth of suicide attempts in the last four weeks.” He did not say how many deaths occurred, or whether the statement was exaggerated for emphasis.

"What I have seen recently, I have never seen before," Hansen said. "I have never seen so much intentional injury,” said a nurse from the same hospital.
 

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Global daily record could fall again today. We are over 99% there.


It fell, the new one is 507 500.
However we are already at 507 000 for today and a number of countries is still missing. So the record will fall again for sure.


US will also have a record day it seems.
 
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