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    Valneva vaccine produces immune response, moves to large-scale efficacy tests


    The U.K. secured up to 100 million doses of the inactivated vaccine with the option of purchasing 90 million more doses between 2023 and 2025. Valneva said it expects 60 million doses to be delivered by the end of the first quarter of 2022.

    When you read many of the texts between the lines there is evident impression that "someone" doesn't expect that this story will be quite finished anytime soon. After all vaccinating the world will take time, in other words we are globally at only 1,8% regarding the second dose (and at 4,7% with first dose). Therefore if immunity starts to expire before the the world is covered the airlines will again carry the virus all over the world in weeks. Plus if some communities don't get vaccinated that can quickly explode the cases once travel is fully normalized. Since this should be judged on community by community bases rather than country by country basis. Because even with 80% vaccination you can still have large pockets of low vaccination that can continue the epidemic. Possibly to the point when mass resistances starts to loosen up, especially if traveling is constantly supplying them with the virus.

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    I hope you can see this attachment, but if not, here's the link.
    Coronavirus in the U.S.: Latest Map and Case Count - The New York Times

    Why is Michigan looking so bad? That is what Wisconsin looked like in September and then we had a six month wave radiate across the country. I know the vaccine could change the course of it, but this is unsettling. I'm wondering if the wave is representing mostly those individuals not getting the vaccine and/or if there are variants infecting people with the vaccine. Are there policy differences in Michigan that account for this relating to the vaccine? I'm not certain why Wisconsin was the starting point last September (after the New York wave of course). There were COVID-19 infestations and mutations on the mink farms, and people drink together inside bars a great deal, but other than that I don't know of unique conditions because there isn't even an international airport from what I understand. There probably is in Michigan. I'd be curious to hear thoughts about this.

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    Oh. Of course.

    That heard immunity the chuds are always talking about? It won't be reached until 3/4 of the population are vaccinated. That's 3/4 of the 7+ billion, not the US population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siúil a Rún View Post
    I hope you can see this attachment, but if not, here's the link.
    Coronavirus in the U.S.: Latest Map and Case Count - The New York Times

    Why is Michigan looking so bad? That is what Wisconsin looked like in September and then we had a six month wave radiate across the country. I know the vaccine could change the course of it, but this is unsettling. I'm wondering if the wave is representing mostly those individuals not getting the vaccine and/or if there are variants infecting people with the vaccine. Are there policy differences in Michigan that account for this relating to the vaccine? I'm not certain why Wisconsin was the starting point last September (after the New York wave of course). There were COVID-19 infestations and mutations on the mink farms, and people drink together inside bars a great deal, but other than that I don't know of unique conditions because there isn't even an international airport from what I understand. There probably is in Michigan. I'd be curious to hear thoughts about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceecee View Post


    Oh. Of course.

    That heard immunity the chuds are always talking about? It won't be reached until 3/4 of the population are vaccinated. That's 3/4 of the 7+ billion, not the US population.


    I see this more as a subtle move to leave "others" to the eastern vaccines, since we are talking about "surpluses" and unneeded vaccines. Therefore there really is no justification for this if this true. In other words this would then tilt the whole world order and that is actually even worse than what you are suggesting. Since this in the bottom line is treason in the diplomacy and "foreign policy sphere". But it doesn't matter, he is trying to get me destroyed in the bottom line. The actual motivation is kinda secondary issue here.

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    India: +126 300
    Turkey: +54 700


    And growing fast in numbers.

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    Worldometer


    This is globally the worst day on the record in months, both in new cases and deaths (and counting). The numbers aren't pretty and many countries have record day since the day one. What is mostly because mutated versions are spreading around and drive the third wave. At current rate even the all time daily records could be overrun pretty soon. Plus as the more people is infected the larger are chances of further mutations, what can really really complicate things due to obvious reasons.

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    Another day that globally adds to the current wave. At this rate even the global record day from the winter time could be "overrun" soon.

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