Random Politics Thread

[Nicodemus]

Just a food for though.

Where every state is in play.

Switching to a proportional system while keeping the electoral college... what a brilliant idea.

 

[Virtual ghost]

 

[Virtual ghost]

Switching to a proportional system while keeping the electoral college... what a brilliant idea.

It actually is, this is still major improvement and it has much larger chance that it becomes a reality, since it isn't a complete remake of the system. After all sometimes you have to "cook" step by step. While on the other hand this is pretty much how we elect EU parliament and everything that comes out of it. Every country/state for itself for the most part.

 

[Nicodemus]

It actually is, this is still major improvement and it has much larger chance that it becomes a reality, since it isn't a complete remake of the system. After all sometimes you have to "cook" step by step. While on the other hand this is pretty much how we elect EU parliament and everything that comes out of it. Every country/state for itself for the most part.

If you had the votes to switch to the system used in the video, you would also have the votes to switch to a popular vote system without electoral college makeup, because the results are pretty much the same.

 

[Virtual ghost]

If you had the votes to switch to the system used in the video, you would also have the votes to switch to a popular vote system without electoral college makeup, because the results are pretty much the same.

Yes, concrete results are pretty much the same, but one "scenario" would be easier to sell to the ones that want to keep it as it is. Since the states are kinda remaining relevant in it. What makes a major difference in trying to pass the change, even if this is pure sugarcoating in a way. However the result would indeed lead to better representation and therefore idea probably isn't a bad one. Since the main problem in the equation is rather "winner takes all" instead of electoral college in general. Since "winner takes all" is what overwrites people's votes and makes certain states completely irrelevant in presidential elections.

 

[Nicodemus]

Yes, concrete results are pretty much the same, but one "scenario" would be easier to sell to the ones that want to keep it as it is. Since the states are kinda remaining relevant in it. What makes a major difference in trying to pass the change, even if this is pure sugarcoating in a way.

As usual, I disagree with your assessment. Selling it to the people would be easy: Everybody matters now. Selling it to Congress is the difficult part. There, every Republican would be able to tell, or would be told, that it any such change would spell the end of Republican power on the federal level - because in total numbers, Republicans usually lose elections.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

"Stop confusing moral arguments with empirical arguments."

When he starts talking about the Whigs and the Jeffersonians, and then the end of reconstruction, it's so interesting....

 

[Jaguar]

I'm tired of the claims of fraud from fraudsters.

 

[The Cat]

 

[Jaguar]

Georgia Senate candidate Raphael Warnock — and his dog — respond to smear ads

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

So Chicago mayor Richard M. Daley was in this racist gang that evidently still exists.

https://www.yelp.com/biz/hamburg-athletic-club-chicago

I think the two reviews sum it up pretty well.

 

[The Cat]

 

[ceecee]

Fact check: False article claims Barack Obama was ‘arrested for espionage’

And...

Fact check: George Soros has not been arrested for ‘election interference’ | Reuters

 

[Red Herring]

Fact check: False article claims Barack Obama was ‘arrested for espionage’

And...

Fact check: George Soros has not been arrested for ‘election interference’ | Reuters

The comments underneath the actual "The Conservative Beaver" article are the kicker, though.
One is claiming Obama and Biden are actually actors and the real guys are already under arrest, another says they are actually dead, one claims Obama is a pedophile and another one demands "They should all be hanged just for being homosexual".

Also, Biden is obviously hiding a police surveillance anklet.

I clicked on it to see if it was satire or genuine crazy but it looks more like clickbait (tons of advertisement!) disguised as crazy disguised as news.

 

[ceecee]

The comments underneath the actual "The Conservative Beaver" article are the kicker, though.
One is claiming Obama and Biden are actually actors and the real guys are already under arrest, another says they are actually dead, one claims Obama is a pedophile and another one demands "They should all be hanged just for being homosexual".

Also, Biden is obviously hiding a police surveillance anklet.

I clicked on it to see if it was satire or genuine crazy but it looks more like clickbait (tons of advertisement!) disguised as crazy disguised as news.

lol Obviously.

I found a couple things linking to the Conservative Beaver YT this morning on the best place for breaking news - twitter.com . I was reluctant to click on it because I don't want that shit gumming up my Azerbaijani farmers/Boho decor/Breadtube algorithm.

 

[Lark]

Fact check: False article claims Barack Obama was ‘arrested for espionage’

And...

Fact check: George Soros has not been arrested for ‘election interference’ | Reuters

I think it beggars belief that anyone can make up bullshit like this and people will read it or click on it or whatever.

This is the kind of stuff which was once too crazy to be a staple of the Weekly World News.

 

[Tater]

Fact check: False article claims Barack Obama was ‘arrested for espionage’

Lol that makes him sound sexy af.

 

[The Cat]

 

[Stigmata]

Pelosi and Schumer back $908 billion bipartisan COVID proposal as basis for talks

Way to go "Master Legislator" Nancy Pelosi. If you were gonna cave on a shitty deal from the Republicans, why didn't you cave on the less shitty deal Trump proposed? At least it provided more robust aid for actual people and not just more business relief. Seriously, Democrats continually move forward as Republicans take steps back and say "meet me in the middle", and the Dems cave every goddamn time. You had a better chance at getting things done working with Trump on hill bill and using his power over the Republican voters to pressure his party into voting for his bill -- that would've been the best route. Instead you didn't get any of the things you said you wanted to even from Trump's bill -- in fact you got much less. And you still caved, while dragging this thing out way further than it needed to be at the expense of the people you aren't going to end up helping anyway.

Democrats have come down over 2 trillion and the Republicans have come up 400 Billion thus far.

 

[Burning Paradigm]

Pelosi and Schumer back $908 billion bipartisan COVID proposal as basis for talks

Way to go "Master Legislator" Nancy Pelosi. If you were gonna cave on a shitty deal from the Republicans, why didn't you cave on the less shitty deal Trump proposed? At least it provided more robust aid for actual people and not just more business relief. Seriously, Democrats continually move forward as Republicans take steps back and say "meet me in the middle", and the Dems cave every goddamn time. You had a better chance at getting things done working with Trump on hill bill and using his power over the Republican voters to pressure his party into voting for his bill -- that would've been the best route. Instead you didn't get any of the things you said you wanted to even from Trump's bill -- in fact you got much less. And you still caved, while dragging this thing out way further than it needed to be at the expense of the people you aren't going to end up helping anyway.

Democrats have come down over 2 trillion and the Republicans have come up 400 Billion thus far.

I maintain Nancy Pelosi is the biggest obstacle to progress in the Democratic Party. Spends more time bashing progressives and caving to Republicans.