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    Default Fear: What is the Best Avenue of Approach When Trying to Overcome Fear?

    Fear: Can Fears Along With Phobias be beaten? What is the Best Avenue of Approach When Trying to Overcome Fear?


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    "The cave you fear to enter holds the treasure you seek." Joseph Campbell


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    "To stand in the fire of your deepest fears in passionate pursuit of your highest dreams is to rise to the realm of the legends." - Robin Sharma
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    Consider the definition of courage. It's not about having no fears, it's about pushing through fear, in order to take the right action.

    “I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

    ― Frank Herbert, Dune

    Unless it's a healthy fear, like fear of poisonous spiders, I practice exposure therapy on myself. An example would be my fear of heights. I deliberately stand on the edge in glass elevators where it's safe but still triggers my fear. This way, the irrational fear won't prevent me from skiing since I love the sport. Decent skiing requires chair lifts and even on the chairlifts, I force myself to look downwards.

    Don't forget that fear is a healthy emotion since it prevents you from doing stupid things. It's when it's irrational, hence preventing you from living a full life, that you need to get a handle on it.

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    Fear canbe good if apportioned appropriately. Be more afraid of the stuff that'll happen to you if you avoid doing the scary thing than the scary thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlip View Post
    Fear canbe good if apportioned appropriately. Be more afraid of the stuff that'll happen to you if you avoid doing the scary thing than the scary thing.
    Very wise.
    I don't believe in magic.
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    For me fear is more or less just a consequence of the lack of understanding how things work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual ghost View Post
    For me fear is more or less just a consequence of the lack of understanding how things work.
    But one can be, and often is, afraid of things that are perfectly realistic and likely to happen...
    I don't believe in magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luminous View Post
    But one can be, and often is, afraid of things that are perfectly realistic and likely to happen...
    That is why I said "for me". Once I have understanding or at least general understanding I can just push through and start to convince everyone that needs to be convinced. Since understanding means that you can establish full control over the situation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lib View Post
    En 5 is afraid of not knowing, once you know, you accept it or work to change it.
    Correct.

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    It's hard to do things you're afraid of doing. Starting the thing is tough enough, but it doesn't get any easier the whole way through. It's kind of like trying to operate heavy machinery while drunk. Hyper vigilance and glass brittle tension aren't always the best psychological lubricants for braving new things- and often make you a lot worse at the thing than you normally would be. Silver lining- if you can manage to pull it off once, that's as bad as you're going to do at it. All further efforts will get better/easier, just have to grab your sack and get over the first hill.

    There's really only one fear, and that's the unknown (which includes injury/death). Get over it by learning via experience (knowledge almost counts, but it's really just a poor man's version of experience). Save death for last, though. That's an OK fear to keep until then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual ghost View Post
    That is why I said "for me". Once I have understanding or at least general understanding I can just push through and start to convince everyone that needs to be convinced. Since understanding means that you can establish full control over the situation.




    Correct.
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    It's hard to do things you're afraid of doing. Starting the thing is tough enough, but it doesn't get any easier the whole way through. It's kind of like trying to operate heavy machinery while drunk. Hyper vigilance and glass brittle tension aren't always the best psychological lubricants for braving new things- and often make you a lot worse at the thing than you normally would be. Silver lining- if you can manage to pull it off once, that's as bad as you're going to do at it. All further efforts will get better/easier, just have to grab your sack and get over the first hill.

    There's really only one fear, and that's the unknown (which includes injury/death). Get over it by learning via experience (knowledge almost counts, but it's really just a poor man's version of experience). Save death for last, though. That's an OK fear to keep until then.
    I find your points of view fascinating...

    But what about say, something like tornadoes? What if you are afraid of tornadoes? You cannot control them. You cannot make them come about to directly experience them.
    I don't believe in magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luminous View Post
    I find your points of view fascinating... But what about say, something like tornadoes? What if you are afraid of tornadoes? You cannot control them. You cannot make them come about to directly experience them.
    I file that one under fear of death. It's a good one, might keep you out of places with tornados.

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