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    Default What do you understand by "believe in"

    People can choose a lot of things to believe in, God, their country, their nation, their party, what does it mean to you? How do you understand it?

    I dont mean any of the ideas themselves so much as the belief and believing.
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    Someone's interpretation of reality.
    Explanations we accept to secure our survival that provide us with a sense of identity, meaning and a rational framework for our experience, which are necessary for us to be able to operate in the world.



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    To me, belief in something means accepting it in the absence of proof.

    If I can prove something, or at least support it with convincing evidence, then I accept it as reality.
    Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth. ~ Buddha

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    Depends on how the words are used. Context matters since one can believe in scientific findings or believe in sky gods.
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    It's a form of valuation; belief means that you value something highly. Think, for, instance, of what it mean to "believe in someone". I think people automatically go to religion, but it doesn't necessarily refer to belief in God.

    Anyway, the debate about belief in God is boring to me. The larger definition of belief I just elucidated is more interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius_Van_Der_Beak View Post
    It's a form of valuation; belief means that you value something highly. Think, for, instance, of what it mean to "believe in someone". I think people automatically go to religion, but it doesn't necessarily refer to belief in God.

    Anyway, the debate about belief in God is boring to me. The larger definition of belief I just elucidated is more interesting.
    And what does that mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bechimo View Post
    Depends on how the words are used. Context matters since one can believe in scientific findings or believe in sky gods.
    Or misused. IME if someone says they believe a scientific finding, then they are putting scientific inquiry on a par with religion. If I have to believe it, that is accept it without evidence, then it is not a scientific finding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    Or misused. IME if someone says they believe a scientific finding, then they are putting scientific inquiry on a par with religion. If I have to believe it, that is accept it without evidence, then it is not a scientific finding.
    Are you familiar with scientism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    Or misused. IME if someone says they believe a scientific finding, then they are putting scientific inquiry on a par with religion. If I have to believe it, that is accept it without evidence, then it is not a scientific finding.
    This is only if you 'believe' that 'belief' can only be applied in one manner. There are multiple definitions and applications for belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Survive & Stay Free View Post
    And what does that mean?
    Huh?
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