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    Quote Originally Posted by asynartetic View Post
    @Cellmold agreed, I think the alt right sees him as a useful tool but if they got their way and triumphed over the left, they’d no longer have use for him and he would then be the next target in their sights
    It's a scary thought that any political angle should become so over-domineering that it 'triumphs' over any other. Yeah I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellmold View Post
    It's a scary thought that any political angle should become so over-domineering that it 'triumphs' over any other. Yeah I agree.
    Well, that's how they see it. To borrow one of Peterson's terms, they are gripped by "ideological possession." The ideologically possessed of the left and right tend to see everything as a life and death, zero sum game.

    I think he's already become a target for some alt right people. The Murdoch Murdoch people (don't watch if easily offended) have already taken aim at him and other figures they've deemed "alt lite." I think I've seen him labelled "controlled opposition" as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellmold View Post
    He's openly stated that the behaviour that has come from university campuses could just as easily come from the right as the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by asynartetic View Post
    Well, that's how they see it. To borrow one of Peterson's terms, they are gripped by "ideological possession." The ideologically possessed of the left and right tend to see everything as a life and death, zero sum game.
    Without a solid foundation in what citizenship and civic rights and responsibilities entail, this is how a lot of people are learning about politics--through ideologies that are marketed to them. People are not learning how to participate as individuals, or in groups without getting swept up. Even in colleges, where people should be learning, if they haven't already, to think critically and reason for themselves about politics, there's a focus on "activism" as the primary means of political engagement. I see popular college courses and degree programs in Activism replacing an education in critical reasoning and sober-minded civic engagement.
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    12 rules for life - an antidote to disillusionment

    1. Their body does not lie.
    2. Treat yourself as you would use someone.
    3. The only friend you really need is yourself.
    4. Realize comparing is only to wake you yourself up, no further than that.
    5. Let your children understand why the things they do work the way they do.
    6. Criticize the world for why you have a house.
    7. Pursue what is natural. What makes you act unnaturally? Stop that.
    8. Live the truth. What you say won't matter.
    9. People will only tell you what they think you want to hear. The faster you realize that, the faster you can move on.
    10. Let your speech accept alternate possibilities.
    11. Please mold yourself to your children's lives.
    12. Wait for the cat to give the signal to come pet it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever View Post
    12 rules for life - an antidote to disillusionment

    1. Their body does not lie.
    2. Treat yourself as you would use someone.
    3. The only friend you really need is yourself.
    4. Realize comparing is only to wake you yourself up, no further than that.
    5. Let your children understand why the things they do work the way they do.
    6. Criticize the world for why you have a house.
    7. Pursue what is natural. What makes you act unnaturally? Stop that.
    8. Live the truth. What you say won't matter.
    9. People will only tell you what they think you want to hear. The faster you realize that, the faster you can move on.
    10. Let your speech accept alternate possibilities.
    11. Please mold yourself to your children's lives.
    12. Wait for the cat to give the signal to come pet it.
    My favorites here are #s 3, 5, 6, 10 and 12

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    I thought that was an awful book but even awful books, like awful people, have a role to play.

    Even if its just as an example of what you never want to be or become.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I thought that was an awful book but even awful books, like awful people, have a role to play.

    Even if its just as an example of what you never want to be or become.
    I thought you said you were passing on reading it?

    Why do you think or imply he’s a awful person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asynartetic View Post
    I thought you said you were passing on reading it?
    A friend of mine has been telling me about it ever since they bought it. I feel as though I'm as good as having read it at this point. Plus I got the cliff notes from a couple of newspaper reviews, they thought it was good but from what they had to say about it I didnt.

    I actually am reading a book called The Antidote at the moment, I think it is much better, its a book written by an enemy of so called positive thinking, which is something which is ascendant that I personally dislike at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    A friend of mine has been telling me about it ever since they bought it. I feel as though I'm as good as having read it at this point. Plus I got the cliff notes from a couple of newspaper reviews, they thought it was good but from what they had to say about it I didnt.

    I actually am reading a book called The Antidote at the moment, I think it is much better, its a book written by an enemy of so called positive thinking, which is something which is ascendant that I personally dislike at the moment.
    Yeah, it seems like a lot of it is just distilled from his lectures anyway. I don’t spend a lot of money on new books. I’d buy it used if I saw it, or I might check it out from the library.

    I’m more interested in finding and reading his first book, Maps of Meaning

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    Quote Originally Posted by asynartetic View Post
    Yeah, it seems like a lot of it is just distilled from his lectures anyway. I don’t spend a lot of money on new books. I’d buy it used if I saw it, or I might check it out from the library.

    I’m more interested in finding and reading his first book, Maps of Meaning
    I tend to find a lot of those books to be pretty similar, publishing houses have different formats and that they recycle and commission, or so it seems. A lot of books on various non-fiction topics seem like collections of journalistic research, they really, really vary in terms of how well the narrative flows aswell.

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