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Sleeping is a means of time travelling,
Time goes by real fast when you're kipping.
Time goes by real fast when you're kipping.
Sleeping is a means of time travelling,
Time goes by real fast when you're kipping.
Yes, as we fall asleep, we briefly enter the hypnogogic state, which is a form of entrancement, where we are still conscious, but some of our mental faculties are not in use, such as our perception of time.
And also as we wake up, we pass through the hypnogogic state where, we might say, we are mildly awake, but not quite asleep.
And normally, just like sleep, we enter and leave entrancement all during the day, and we take it for granted, and it is something we are not immediately conscious of.
However it is possible to take entrancement into our creative hands and design our own entrancements for specific purposes.
To learn how to design our own entrancements a good place to start is The Way of Trance by Dennis Wier.
The ways of the INTP usually helps me enter this trance i.e. being lazy.
I'm quite unconscious of time i.e. feels like 10 minutes has past however in reality it's been 4 hours.
I think time travel is possible, but a good fictional novel to read about this is Three Days to Never by Tim Powers which is a book about how Albert Einstein invented time travel but the project was so confidential that not even the president knew. Yes, it's only fiction, but it's a whole world of possibility.
I voted 'yes' on the poll.
To follow up on @<a href="http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/members/27162.html" target="_blank">Cloudpatrol</a>'s thread I felt I shoułd ask you all if you think that it's even possible to travel through time?
An outside observer of the time travel being someone that is not participating in the time travel themselves? Are you saying then, that the traveller themselves would be exactly as they were in that past event with no recollection of the future that they came from and thus would just act out the past the exact same way they did the first time?Traveling backwards in time would be like hitting rewind on a movie. The characters, supposing they were conscious, wouldn't experience anything remarkable whatsoever. Only an outside observer would notice that time had been set to an earlier date. Since there is no observer outside the universe, this amounts to saying that traveling backwards in time is fiction (unless it happens on a strictly local scale and is observed by someone). The past is and always will be permanently what it is.
But if the time traveller is inserting themselves into that point in space time, wouldn't their interactions with people that are in that past cause a different future to branch off. I'm not comprehending the concept of it "just like hitting rewind" because in this hypothetical scenario, the time traveller is travelling to a past that they aren't in. The past version of themselves is already there, and if they interacted with their past selves or anybody else in that past, then would that not propel them into a different future?According to Einstein, history can be envisioned as a static, 4-dimensional structure. Past events are located in one place within time space and future events are located in another place within time space. Since all of these futures, pasts, and presents exist always and simultaneously, it can be deduced that it is owing to the observer's viewpoint that we're at this point in time space rather than in all of time space. Since it is purely a matter of one's viewpoint, traveling to the past should be possible. But to do so would, like hitting rewind, produce results that make no difference to the time traveler.
To both questions: yes.mooseantlers said:An outside observer of the time travel being someone that is not participating in the time travel themselves? Are you saying then, that the traveller themselves would be exactly as they were in that past event with no recollection of the future that they came from and thus would just act out the past the exact same way they did the first time?
If they literally went to the past, then no. The time traveler would act in such a way during their stay in the past as to create a history that leads to the present in which they time traveled. Imagine someone who uses a time machine to carry the blueprint for the time machine into the past, and this blueprint is then used to build the same time machine that the person originally used. Eventually, if the person lived long enough, they would be able to witness their past act of traveling back in time performed by a younger twin of themselves or in other words the person that they were before they traveled back in time. This is the consistent histories version of time travel, and it simply means that the time travel has already occurred when the person travels back in time. What the person did in the past in the third person they will now do again in the first person. *spoilers for Harry Potter* This is what occurs in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, if you've ever read that book.mooseantlers said:But if the time traveller is inserting themselves into that point in space time, wouldn't their interactions with people that are in that past cause a different future to branch off.
If it created a new future, it would mean that there are multiple universes and that the person had traveled between them (this is because time space is static and unalterable; the original timeline would consequently have to be somewhere within it), or that the person had simply traveled into a scenario that happens to resemble the past. That isn't truly the same thing as time travel.mooseantlers said:If one moves backwards in time and interacts with people that are in that part of the time-space, how could that not create a new future?
In this paper we present geometry which has been designed to fit a layperson's description of a 'time machine'. It is a box which allows those within it to travel backwards and forwards through time and space, as interpreted by an external observer. Timelike observers travel within the interior of a 'bubble' of geometry which moves along a circular, acausal trajectory through spacetime. If certain timelike observers inside the bubble maintain a persistent acceleration, their worldlines will close.
Our analysis includes a description of the causal structure of our spacetime, as well as a discussion of its physicality. The inclusion of such a bubble in a spacetime will render the background spacetime non-orientable, generating additional consistency constraints for formulations of the initial value problem. The spacetime geometry is geodesically incomplete, contains naked singularities, and requires exotic matter.
Apparently, time travel, even backwards, is mathematically possible. Here's an abstract of a paper published in Classical and Quantum Gravity by Tippett and Tsang
Traversable acausal retrograde domains in spacetime - IOPscience
The problem seems to be that the exotic matter required to curve the space-time is hard to come by.