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    Quote Originally Posted by OptoGypsy View Post
    The eunuchs are especially not masters they are slaves to religiosity in the same way as the Sanhedrin of the NT, yet their existence is important in small numbers for several communities, it is important to remember the scene of the wedding at Cana

    To quote myself from other threads of the time I also posted that response...

    " that is the type that is stupid enough to believe in change through reformation or revolution without realizing that we live in an eternal cycle under the cosmos. They're idiots under the illusion and self deception of freedom. I too am a fool as I'm a slave that is conscious of his power and chains there is two different ways to view this you are either the slave to a God/Satan relationship or to the Cosmos. Murder is cool, especially if you do it yourself. If it helps I prefer the God/Devil combo because it makes blasphemy/heresy more personal, I love being an ego in an imaginary reality created by my mind. Prometheus > Sisyphus and most definitely greater than Dionysian with his Nietzsche whose work makes the Unabomber look like an intelligent logician. In all seriousness it's because it is the most rational system portrayed in all of its glory by its Russian thinkers"

    "Rebellion and revolution lead to murder and the cycle once again continues with the collapse and the birth of the new regime, just ask SPARTACUS or the Russians, etc. Freedom is an illusion and anyone that thinks otherwise is self deceptive or mad. MASS SUICIDE SADES STYLE THE ONE THAT SURVIVES IS THE UNIQUE AND FREE!!! "
    These thoughts are informed by the politics that maximises power, yet we have a functioning politics today called liberal democracy that limits power.

    And yet we don't seem to realise what we have.

    This is because our natural instinct is to maximise power. But it is through the genius of the Western Enlightenment that we discovered the secret of politics that limits power.

    Unfortunately narcissists do not want to be personally limited and so are unable to appreciated the politics of limitation.

    And although narcissists live in a functioning liberal democracy they plainly hanker for totalitarian politics of the Left or the Right or Theocracy.

    Yes, narcissists are truly deeply disgusting.

    And disgust is a sign that a taboo has been broken. And the taboo is against fouling our own nest. It is a taboo protecting common decency.

    Common decency makes no sense to narcissists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    These thoughts are informed by the politics that maximises power, yet we have a functioning politics today called liberal democracy that limits power.

    And yet we don't seem to realise what we have.

    This is because our natural instinct is to maximise power. But it is through the genius of the Western Enlightenment that we discovered the secret of politics that limits power.

    Unfortunately narcissists do not want to be personally limited and so are unable to appreciated the politics of limitation.

    And although narcissists live in a functioning liberal democracy they plainly hanker for totalitarian politics of the Left or the Right or Theocracy.

    Yes, narcissists are truly deeply disgusting.

    And disgust is a sign that a taboo has been broken. And the taboo is against fouling our own nest. It is a taboo protecting common decency.

    Common decency makes no sense to narcissists.
    The System will continue as it has been until the state engulfs Christ. Which will never happen... We can't build a tower of babel to heaven or take heaven down to earth, humans are destined to forever live under a master and slave morality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OptoGypsy View Post
    I read the fables as a child. Different people have different taste buds although I heard that impoverished children are delicious in a a suffering economy... Hannibal Lector seems to like it although he is a cheat since he has yet to gain the scrotum to eat his own...
    Your humour is cleverly tongue-in-cheek @OptoGypsy. Yes, I have devoured both tongue and cheek (beef and fish respectively, sorry if this disappoints).

    The Historian Josephus recounts parents resorting to eating their own children during the fall of Jerusalem to the Roman army; starvation being rampant due to imprisonment within their own walled city. I have always thought such is the epitome of horror within the human experience. The simple house cat was greatly in decline after World War II in many parts of the world for much the same reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Admiral Crunch View Post
    We don't always know what we live or die for. In a sense, through my transformation, I have already died. It was my choice, but I did not understand it, much like Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden.
    I have to admit that I don't totally understand this @Grand Admiral Crunch but I find it interesting and would welcome more illumination if you so desire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellmold View Post
    Still looking.

    Maybe that is a reason in itself.
    Brilliant @Cellmold. Also, humble. = Beauty

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDP2525 View Post
    I don't think I could say what I would die for unless put under circumstances bad enough I had to make that choice.

    I think if anyone is at that point, it is fairly easy to determine as it's at a point of desperation. Things go from gray to black and white quickly at that point.

    What I live for? Everything. Laughing. Friends. Fun. Beauty. Wonder. All those moments.
    I always get the feeling from your posts that we are very different and also that I would greatly enjoy breaking bread with you and getting to know more about your life and how you view the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    These thoughts are informed by the politics that maximises power, yet we have a functioning politics today called liberal democracy that limits power.

    And yet we don't seem to realise what we have.

    This is because our natural instinct is to maximise power. But it is through the genius of the Western Enlightenment that we discovered the secret of politics that limits power.

    Unfortunately narcissists do not want to be personally limited and so are unable to appreciated the politics of limitation.

    And although narcissists live in a functioning liberal democracy they plainly hanker for totalitarian politics of the Left or the Right or Theocracy.

    Yes, narcissists are truly deeply disgusting.

    And disgust is a sign that a taboo has been broken. And the taboo is against fouling our own nest. It is a taboo protecting common decency.

    Common decency makes no sense to narcissists.
    I enjoy reading your thoughts because you are very passionate @Mole. I find you speak in absolutes which is not the path that my mind travels, but I think on your words. I feel that there is more "give" within you than sometimes you express and that simply is due to the strong feelings behind your beliefs.

    For example I know it bothers you if the word "hate" is applied to things you value, so I think you would be open to things that in heat of the moment you may brand as disgusting. I am not specifically referring to anything in this thread. I am only saying that where you can read as absolute at times, I do NOT think you are unyielding, though ARE highly principled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudpatrol View Post
    Your humour is cleverly tongue-in-cheek @OptoGypsy. Yes, I have devoured both tongue and cheek (beef and fish respectively, sorry if this disappoints).

    The Historian Josephus recounts parents resorting to eating their own children during the fall of Jerusalem to the Roman army; starvation being rampant due to imprisonment within their own walled city. I have always thought such is the epitome of horror within the human experience. The simple house cat was greatly in decline after World War II in many parts of the world for much the same reason.
    hmm cat stew


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudpatrol View Post
    In some parts of the world it is necessary to know what (if anything) one would die for. In other parts it's more of an intellectual exercise...

    But, it seems that while sometimes people focus on what they would die for, it can be more practically challenging to LIVE for things. To make simple life adjustments or stand strong/apart for things in day-to-day existence.

    Do you know what you would die or what you live for? Do you think it matters? Do you think children are capable of deciding such things or adult reasoning is required?
    If I had to I would lie down in oncoming traffic with a smile on my face for my girlfriend.

    If I had to I would die for my country. If I was drafted or we were invaded I would fight tooth and nail.

    I would die for my sister, and my family if I had to.
    Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays, instead of serving you, if he sacrifices it to your opinion.
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