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    Quote Originally Posted by OptoGypsy View Post
    The slaves lives to live, for primitive reasons, reproduce and sustain your genes. The person that has truly experienced life lives by the rebellious motif of why should I live transitioning themselves from the position of a slave into a master rather by the romanticism movement, the rebellion of the Karamazov or revolution through the vulgar means of history. Greek Mythology is the greatest source to becoming self aware and in my opinion the message of Christ is what sustains my existence. People may find it elsewhere such as the sciences.

    The best route may be to EAT YOUR HEART, it is just another unnecessary organ and I've heard that it is great with tea, the brain is also a sizable meal.
    I am absorbing your message @OptoGypsy. Do you enjoy Aesop's tales? I had always heard brain just tastes offal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudpatrol View Post
    I am absorbing your message @OptoGypsy. Do you enjoy Aesop's tales? I had always heard brain just tastes offal.
    I read the fables as a child. Different people have different taste buds although I heard that impoverished children are delicious in a a suffering economy... Hannibal Lector seems to like it although he is a cheat since he has yet to gain the scrotum to eat his own...

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    Still looking.

    Maybe that is a reason in itself.
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    I don't think I could say what I would die for unless put under circumstances bad enough I had to make that choice.

    I think if anyone is at that point, it is fairly easy to determine as it's at a point of desperation. Things go from gray to black and white quickly at that point.

    What I live for? Everything. Laughing. Friends. Fun. Beauty. Wonder. All those moments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudpatrol View Post
    It is always most difficult to understand the things most opposite to us @Mole. It was difficult for people to comprehend Kamikaze pilots in World War II and neither of the cultural influences we refer to are the first to introduce the idea of dying for a "cause" or even as you allude to - killing for one.
    The striking thing is the cognitive dissonance between those who love life and those who form a death cult.

    Cognitive dissonance is difficult to understand and even difficult to approach, because cognitive dissonance is emotionally painful, so everything tells us to avoid cognitive dissonance.

    But learning is based on cognitive dissonance, so to pursue our education beyond school, we need to become familiar with cognitive dissonance.

    We have the opportunity here to explore the cognitive dissonance between astrology and astronomy, between mbti and psychometrics. But be warned: it will be painful.

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    Relationships.

    In a vague abstract why or if I had to take a punt at labelling it with some ideological reference I'd have to say Christian humanism as I understand it or socialism, in the main I just hate evil.
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    the good stuff

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    We don't always know what we live or die for. In a sense, through my transformation, I have already died. It was my choice, but I did not understand it, much like Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OptoGypsy View Post
    The slaves lives to live, for primitive reasons, reproduce and sustain your genes. The person that has truly experienced life lives by the rebellious motif of why should I live transitioning themselves from the position of a slave into a master rather by the romanticism movement, the rebellion of the Karamazov or revolution through the vulgar means of history. Greek Mythology is the greatest source to becoming self aware and in my opinion the message of Christ is what sustains my existence. People may find it elsewhere such as the sciences.

    The best route may be to EAT YOUR HEART, it is just another unnecessary organ and I've heard that it is great with tea, the brain is also a sizable meal.
    To think that I could've turned out a wiser man if I'd just read the Bible and a bit more poetry! Life can be so simple sometimes.

    Many of the "masters" you speak of have unwittingly entered a different form of servitude: a contempt for one's most basic instincts and needs. Old eunuchs like to forget that if we don't reproduce, we die out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kullervo View Post
    To think that I could've turned out a wiser man if I'd just read the Bible and a bit more poetry! Life can be so simple sometimes.

    Many of the "masters" you speak of have unwittingly entered a different form of servitude: a contempt for one's most basic instincts and needs. Old eunuchs like to forget that if we don't reproduce, we die out.
    The eunuchs are especially not masters they are slaves to religiosity in the same way as the Sanhedrin of the NT, yet their existence is important in small numbers for several communities, it is important to remember the scene of the wedding at Cana

    To quote myself from other threads of the time I also posted that response...

    " that is the type that is stupid enough to believe in change through reformation or revolution without realizing that we live in an eternal cycle under the cosmos. They're idiots under the illusion and self deception of freedom. I too am a fool as I'm a slave that is conscious of his power and chains there is two different ways to view this you are either the slave to a God/Satan relationship or to the Cosmos. Murder is cool, especially if you do it yourself. If it helps I prefer the God/Devil combo because it makes blasphemy/heresy more personal, I love being an ego in an imaginary reality created by my mind. Prometheus > Sisyphus and most definitely greater than Dionysian with his Nietzsche whose work makes the Unabomber look like an intelligent logician. In all seriousness it's because it is the most rational system portrayed in all of its glory by its Russian thinkers"

    "Rebellion and revolution lead to murder and the cycle once again continues with the collapse and the birth of the new regime, just ask SPARTACUS or the Russians, etc. Freedom is an illusion and anyone that thinks otherwise is self deceptive or mad. MASS SUICIDE SADES STYLE THE ONE THAT SURVIVES IS THE UNIQUE AND FREE!!! "

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