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01-16-2011, 09:58 PM #651INTJ | 5w4 - Sp/Sx/So | 5-4-(9/1) | RLoEI | Melancholic-Choleric | Johari & Nohari
This will not end well...
But it will at least be poetic, I suppose...
Hmm... But what if it does end well?
Then I suppose it will be a different sort of poetry, a preferable sort...
A sort I could become accustomed to...
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01-18-2011, 10:06 PM #652A window to the soulGuest
"Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet believe."
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01-19-2011, 06:16 AM #653
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01-19-2011, 07:01 AM #654
I'm not trying to discount your faith or anything, but, as a former Christian, I feel compelled to mention that, well, that passage is a phenomenal piece of circuitry to install into the brains of (potential) followers who you desire to have completely brainwashed into devoutly/blindly following your cause, regardless of its actual veracity.
Doesn't make it any less true if the cause is true, but, well, it's still a damn effective tool, even if it's not...
[Center]The Justice Fighter
INTJ - 6w5 8dw 3w4 sx/so - Neutral Good
"I trust what you are doing though…I just see it a little differently.
I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."
"Behind these gates of seeming warmth sits, loosely chained, a fierce attack dog. Perhaps not crazy, but dangerous"
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01-19-2011, 09:38 AM #655
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01-19-2011, 09:50 AM #656
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Well it would depend on your interpretation, objectively you cant compell belief, those who experience it easily and without doubt are blessed, in the way a lottery winner could be considered blessed. Its not about trying to guilt people into believing without evidence, if you read the gospels and acts of the apostles they all required evidence, over and over and over again, even with the evidence some of them betrayed Jesus or proved human all to human when put to the test.
All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations
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01-19-2011, 09:53 AM #657
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All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations
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01-19-2011, 10:06 AM #658
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01-19-2011, 11:39 AM #659
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01-19-2011, 02:55 PM #660
I cannot accept the word "blessed" being used to describe those with blind faith.
Were the most readily believing followers of the Heaven's Gate cult blessed as well?
I believe it's the part that says "you're going to hell if you don't believe this", even though there are plenty of other religious options out there (some of which claim the very same thing [and with equal "certainty"]), but none of which can actually provide more or better evidence of their actual Divinity than any other.
First reaction: good point.
On second thought: nowadays at least.
Third thought: well, if something akin to experiencing "the Holy Spirit" counts as "seeing", that would be a very important caveat.
I happened to experience something akin to what one might call "the Holy Spirit" last night, on my yoga mat, surrounded by 20-25 other people who likely were not experiencing the same thing as me at all. This by no means happens every time I am on my yoga mat, nor, when it does happen, does it necessarily last the entire time. But what I can tell you is that each and every time it has occurred, it happens to coincide with, and, in some sense, be the sustenance and fuel for, what I could only call the greatest, most beautiful, most graceful moments of my five-plus years practicing yoga: I perform the asanas better, I breathe better, I approach perfection. For whatever reason, in the rather rare moments this occurs, I feel like I am directly communicating with God/the Universe/Being.[Center]The Justice Fighter
INTJ - 6w5 8dw 3w4 sx/so - Neutral Good
"I trust what you are doing though…I just see it a little differently.
I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."
"Behind these gates of seeming warmth sits, loosely chained, a fierce attack dog. Perhaps not crazy, but dangerous"
The Aggressive 6
Debator
[spoiler]:scruples:[/spoiler][/center]
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