Ask Aphrodite (and her sex slaves) your questions about sexual immorality~

[AphroditeGoneAwry]

You've used the phrase twice now; I presumed you had some semblance of what the term meant. That certainly was not spelled out in the OP, and if it was, I didn't make sense of it.

Sexual immorality is living a life of amoral sexuality.

I further define it by using God's word, the bible, as my guide.

 

[The Great One]

Sexual immorality is living a life of amoral sexuality.

I further define it by using God's word, the bible, as my guide.

So what is sexually immoral to you?

 

[AphroditeGoneAwry]

So what is sexually immoral to you?

I think I spelled it out pretty clearly in the OP> Did you have a specific question?

 

[The Great One]

I think I spelled it out pretty clearly in the OP> Did you have a specific question?

Those sexual rules don't make logical sense to me so therefore I don't follow them. Rules have to make logical sense for me to actually give a damn and actually follow them.

 

[AphroditeGoneAwry]

Those sexual rules don't make logical sense to me so therefore I don't follow them. Rules have to make logical sense for me to actually give a damn and actually follow them.

Well, you must be a believer in God for them to make sense.

You are not a believer in God?


EDIT: Actually, they make much sense whether you are a believer or not. It's just that you might not internalize them like you would if you accepted God into your life.

 

[sprinkles]

Lepidus: What manner o' thing is your crocodile?
Antony: It is shap'd, sir, like itself, and it is as broad as it hath breadth; it is just as high as it is, and moves with its own organs. It lives by that which nourisheth it, and the elements once out of it, it transmigrates.
Lepidus: What color is it of?
Antony: Of its own color too.
Lepidus: 'Tis a strange serpent.
Antony: 'Tis so. And the tears of it are wet.

 

[Cellmold]

Do you have any questions about sexual practices or sexual immorality?

Im a virgin. So of course, lots.

Like: What is the best position to REALLY raise gods hackles?

 

[jixmixfix]

Well, you must be a believer in God for them to make sense.

You are not a believer in God?


EDIT: Actually, they make much sense whether you are a believer or not. It's just that you might not internalize them like you would if you accepted God into your life.

No just a believer in the bible God is independent of this.

 

[Lark]

No. They're totally detached from the founders. The reformation leaders were rooted in the bible, but they were also rooted in Creeds and Saints leading up to Aquinas.

You mean anglicans or something like that?

I think you must have a very different perspective being from NI. In america I'd be surprised if many nondenominational Protestants are even aware of Calvin and Luther and what they taught on the most elementary level. That's why I think it's so weird that you tie together reformation beliefs with all the problems of modern evangelicalism when most are so detached from the beliefs and practices of the reformers.

I'd admit that's probably the case, reading Erasmus and Luther's discourse on free will Erasmus comes of as the more modern and progressive thinker, without abandoning anything, Luther appears to be at once atavistic and radical or at least favouring radical change, ironically, a lot of the personality profiles of modern evangelists, certainly the street preachers I've encountered in NI, are similar to that of Luther.

Its part of the reason I was interested a while back in methodism and other tendencies like that because I wondered if they were much changed, protestant friends when I asked about distinctions told me that they were mainly cultural, different habits of dress on sundays or during the week, different attitudes to alcohol but what united them all was the same underlying unitary frame of reference.

I hope I'm not coming off like a bigot here because I'm not saying that I dont think they are entitled to those opinions or anything like that, they are and can do as the please on sundays, I just believe that its stuck in a moment. Not that the RCC hasnt its own tendencies which are similar either.

 

[The Great One]

Well, you must be a believer in God for them to make sense.

You are not a believer in God?


EDIT: Actually, they make much sense whether you are a believer or not. It's just that you might not internalize them like you would if you accepted God into your life.

I do but I don't take all the rules at face value. My morals are shall we say...."flexible".

 

[AphroditeGoneAwry]

I do but I don't take all the rules at face value. My morals are shall we say...."flexible".

You don't believe in the 10 Commandments?

What doesn't make sense to you about them.
[MENTION=7278]jixmixfix[/MENTION] Why do you say it isn't God?

 

[The Great One]

You don't believe in the 10 Commandments?

What doesn't make sense to you about them.
[MENTION=7278]jixmixfix[/MENTION] Why do you say it isn't God?

1. God says that being gay is a sin, but why is it a sin? Being gay hurts no one? It just means that you are attracted to people of the same gender. It shouldn't be considered a sin. That's just dumb.

2. Why is sex before marriage a sin? Don't you have to get a feel for what you like before you marry a girl? You have to test drive a car before you buy it, come on?

3. Why could God slaughter so many people in the first testament but yet at the same time call murder a sin? That's hipocritical.

4. Why is gambling a sin? Many SJ Baptist preachers were once business owners and were in sales. Sales in a gamble: driving in my car to get to work is a gamble because I don't know if I will get in a car crash and die. Spending money is a gamble because my bank account could get robbed by some identity thief. Everything is a gamble so why is gambling wrong? That's just stupid.

5. Why is looking at pornography a sin? Who is it hurting? We were all born naked anyhow so why is it a sin to look at naked women?

6. Why am I supposed to take all these rules at face value and follow them blindly if they make no logical sense to me? It's just dumb.

 

[AphroditeGoneAwry]

1. God says that being gay is a sin, but why is it a sin? Being gay hurts no one? It just means that you are attracted to people of the same gender. It shouldn't be considered a sin. That's just dumb.

If you are going by the 10 Commandments, it doesn't say that being gay is a sin. The other areas of the bible that refer to it could be referring to other things, I've heard. I am not a bible expert but I go by the 10 commandments to know what sin is.

2. Why is sex before marriage a sin? Don't you have to get a feel for what you like before you marry a girl? You have to test drive a car before you buy it, come on?

lol. Um. Yeah. I will post the 10 Commandments on the next post and you can see they say nothing about premarital sex.

3. Why could God slaughter so many people in the first testament but yet at the same time call murder a sin? That's hipocritical.

I am not a bible scholar or preacher. That question would be better suited to someone else.

My knowledge is that God was punishing them for turning against his law for a very long time. Murder for God is not a sin. God cannot commit sin. We cannot understand God's Kingdom Plan.

4. Why is gambling a sin? Many SJ Baptist preachers were once business owners and were in sales. Sales in a gamble: driving in my car to get to work is a gamble because I don't know if I will get in a car crash and die. Spending money is a gamble because my bank account could get robbed by some identity thief. Everything is a gamble so why is gambling wrong? That's just stupid.

Is it a commandment? I think it could become a sin when it turns into 'stealing' or becomes not 'do unto others as you'd have them do unto you.' Like, hardcore swindler gambling?

5. Why is looking at pornography a sin? Who is it hurting? We were all born naked anyhow so why is it a sin to look at naked women?

Looking at pornography is not a sin per se, unless it breaks a commandment. The deal is that once you become born again, and let God into your heart and life, you can't help but want to be better and do his will. It becomes evident when you walk with God that lusting is sexually immoral. The bible speaks of sexual immorality so much I think because it is one of the easiest ways to slip into sin and to not live a fruitful life, which is what God wants for you and me.

6. Why am I supposed to take all these rules at face value and follow them blindly if they make no logical sense to me? It's just dumb.

The 10 Commandments make sense to just about everyone, I'd say.

I'll post them now...



Thanks for you questions, Oh Great One. I think I detected a definite 'friendly' vibe there.

 

[AphroditeGoneAwry]

The 10 Commandments~

I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

Thou shalt have none other gods before me.

Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:

Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,

And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.

Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:

But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.

And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.

Honour thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

Thou shalt not kill.

Neither shalt thou commit adultery.

Neither shalt thou steal.

Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is thy neighbour's.

The above is from the KJV version of the Bible from Deuteronomy chapter 5. The King James Version of the Ten Commandments is on of the better known versions.

 

[skylights]

The interesting thing to me about this viewpoint on love is it being defined as enjoying all things on the basis of God. I understand this becomes self-affirming if we say "God is Love", and I suppose this works for two people who devote themselves to loving God together and through each other, but even then, I wonder about their true ability to appreciate and grow with each other. From another perspective, you're kind of leaving your partner out of the relationship when the focus is on God, whose nature is marred by human perception - in other words, however pure your thoughts, each human is going to conceptualize God a little bit differently and therefore fall prey to error in understanding God, so really aiming to enjoy God through your partner ends up being sort of like trying to revel in your own personal interpretation of what things ought to be through your partner. It's kind of self-centered. So, you mentioned something earlier about Paganism seeming to put enjoyment of sex first and love second, but then I'm not sure I understand how that's theoretically any different than putting personal interpretation of God first and love second. In both cases love is relegated to an aftereffect instead of a goal in and of itself. Is love theoretically an aftereffect of God? And if so, what exactly is love?

 

[AphroditeGoneAwry]

The interesting thing to me about this viewpoint on love is it being defined as enjoying all things on the basis of God. I understand this becomes self-affirming if we say "God is Love", and I suppose this works for two people who devote themselves to loving God together and through each other, but even then, I wonder about their true ability to appreciate and grow with each other. From another perspective, you're kind of leaving your partner out of the relationship when the focus is on God, whose nature is marred by human perception - in other words, however pure your thoughts, each human is going to conceptualize God a little bit differently and therefore fall prey to error in understanding God, so really aiming to enjoy God through your partner ends up being sort of like trying to revel in your own personal interpretation of what things ought to be through your partner. It's kind of self-centered. So, you mentioned something earlier about Paganism seeming to put enjoyment of sex first and love second, but then I'm not sure I understand how that's theoretically any different than putting personal interpretation of God first and love second. In both cases love is relegated to an aftereffect instead of a goal in and of itself. Is love theoretically an aftereffect of God? And if so, what exactly is love?

To the bolded I'd respond that when St. Augustine said, 'enjoying each other on account of God', means..... something that is difficult to put into words for me right now. It's like having a consciousness about God and the love that flows between you two because of God, not just because you are hot for each other's bodies and horny. You can be hot for each other's bodies and horny, and I wanted to say this to that 'moist eye' of the dragon lol or whatever that post was earlier--love can be sexy and hot and even poly and still be sacred and ordained by the Lord. If it's love it glorifies Him naturally, because love is a gift from him that we enjoy. Our best one!

And we should all put God first, even when married. If we did that, we'd all probably be a lot more content.


Thanks for your post!

 

[skylights]

To the bolded I'd respond that when St. Augustine said, 'enjoying each other on account of God', means..... something that is difficult to put into words for me right now. It's like having a consciousness about God and the love that flows between you two because of God, not just because you are hot for each other's bodies and horny. You can be hot for each other's bodies and horny, and I wanted to say this to that 'moist eye' of the dragon lol or whatever that post was earlier--love can be sexy and hot and even poly and still be sacred and ordained by the Lord. If it's love it glorifies Him naturally, because love is a gift from him that we enjoy. Our best one!

And we should all put God first, even when married. If we did that, we'd all probably be a lot more content.


Thanks for your post!

Well, thank you for your response!

I'm still hung up on the idea of loving one another on the basis of belief. I guess when belief is the most important thing in your life, all other things come next. It's hard for me to understand that as a sexual-dominant too, because it seems like personal interpretation is then a rift between the two of you that is always put first. But then, I suppose this is more a musing on sx and relationships and less a question about sexual morality. So perhaps I should just go to the Enneagram forum and start an sx thread instead. :]

Also - "moist eye of the dragon". That just sounds dirty.

 

[AphroditeGoneAwry]

Well, thank you for your response!

I'm still hung up on the idea of loving one another on the basis of belief. I guess when belief is the most important thing in your life, all other things come next. It's hard for me to understand that as a sexual-dominant too, because it seems like personal interpretation is then a rift between the two of you that is always put first. But then, I suppose this is more a musing on sx and relationships and less a question about sexual morality. So perhaps I should just go to the Enneagram forum and start an sx thread instead. :]

Also - "moist eye of the dragon". That just sounds dirty.

I don't interpret it that way at all: That I have to love someone on the basis of belief. If I love God, then I bring that love to the relationship/friendship. I am loving another on account of God.

"To enjoy oneself and one's neighbor on account of God," is the actual quote. It really doesn't have much to do with the other person, does it? If it's love from you, and you feel it's on account of God, then isn't that what is important?

 

[Sniffles]

Looking at pornography is not a sin per se...

Yes actually it is.

 

[Il Morto Che Parla]

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