Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
I see a bit of this in Rand. If you pursue your own will, while not coercing anyone else, what results is very close to what all those morals and ethics aim to achieve, with far less drama and wasted energy.
Yeah. A lot of energy is wasted being in other people's business.

I think they both do have a point that one can be their own moral agent, and I don't think that this was ever a problem. Rand's idea of not coercing anyone else is pretty good, and Kant's idea of not doing anything that you wouldn't have be an absolute law is also pretty good. The fights start when we tell other people what's good for them.