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What do you think is the measure of a good man?

Rex

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Carefull with the word Macho. Its the anti of femine, meaning. anti social, anti care or anti talkative. macho is not related to a good person in its direct sense i think.

If thats a good man for you thats different but now we don`t talk in general terms.


Word Origin & History

macho
1928 (n.) "tough guy," from Sp. macho "male animal," as an adj., "masculine, virile," from L. masculus (see masculine). First attested in Eng. as an adj. 1959.
 

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We know that power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely, so a good man, an uncorrupted man, is one who accepts the limitation of his power.
 

Little_Sticks

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We know that power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely, so a good man, an uncorrupted man, is one who accepts the limitation of his power.

If it is true that absolute power corrupts absolutely (Marcus Aurelius is evidence to the contradictory, but nevermind), then one who accepts the limitation of their power couldn't have absolute power. Did you mean to imply that a good man can't have absolute power? If so, what do you then mean by absolute power?
 

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If it is true that absolute power corrupts absolutely (Marcus Aurelius is evidence to the contradictory, but nevermind), then one who accepts the limitation of their power couldn't have absolute power. Did you mean to imply that a good man can't have absolute power? If so, what do you then mean by absolute power?

Absolute power is totalitarian power.

For instance, Marxism is a totalitarian ideology; National Socialism is a totalitarian ideology; and Islam is a totalitarian ideology.

And interestingly, the totalitarian temptation is intuitive, for each politician wishes to maximise their power, and totalitarianism is the maximisation of power. While on the other hand liberal democracy is counter-intuitive, it goes against the grain of any politician, liberal democracy is learnt over centuries of trial and error, and is constrained by a Constitution and the Separation of Powers.

And today the totalitarian Marxists and the totalitarian Islamists have made common cause against liberal democracy. This is reminiscent of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact of 1939 between the totalitiarians of the Left and the totalitarians of the Right, opening the way forward for the attack on the liberal democracies in WW II.
 

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Absolute power is totalitarian power.

For instance, Marxism is a totalitarian ideology; National Socialism is a totalitarian ideology; and Islam is a totalitarian ideology.

And interestingly, the totalitarian temptation is intuitive, for each politician wishes to maximise their power, and totalitarianism is the maximisation of power. While on the other hand liberal democracy is counter-intuitive, it goes against the grain of any politician, liberal democracy is learnt over centuries of trial and error, and is constrained by a Constitution and the Separation of Powers.

And today the totalitarian Marxists and the totalitarian Islamists have made common cause against liberal democracy. This is reminiscent of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact of 1939 between the totalitiarians of the Left and the totalitarians of the Right, opening the way forward for the attack on the liberal democracies in WW II.

Don't you think this is just human nature? If people don't seek power via religion or politics, they're going to do it via business. These people will always exist in society, and it's a matter of finding a balance.

It's also not just about power: some people really have such strong ideological moralities that they really want to "protect their tribe" so to speak, and believe being morally closed is safe.

I think we're having a battle with biology, quite frankly.
 
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Anew Leaf

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A combination of the constellation of these stars: kindness, integrity, and courage.

They form a triangle. My measure is that a good man is a triangle.

Or, if we are in luck, he shall be the Summer Triangle:

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Mole

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Don't you think this is just human nature? If people don't seek power via religion or politics, they're going to do it via business. These people will always exist in society, and it's a matter of finding a balance.

It's also not just about power: some people really have such strong ideological moralities that they really want to "protect their tribe" so to speak, and believe being morally closed is safe.

I think we're having a battle with biology, quite frankly.

Rather than being a battle with biology, WW II was a war between totalitarianism and liberal democracy. And thank God liberal democracy won and gave us the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in 1948.

However 57 Islamic States have publicly and openly rejected the Universal Declaration of Human Rights as being incompatible with totalitarian Islam.
 
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I suppose this question could be answered in a variety of ways, even from one perspective. This first thing we have to look at is what do you believe to be good? I'm sure the dictionary would have a defininition but is that definition based on a bunch of votes or one persons oppinion? If you asked me I would tell you that it really comes down to integrity. If you asked me what integrity looks like to me, I would say integrity is about doing the right things for the right reasons. But then the question would be, what is the right thing and what are the right reasons.. Good question..
 
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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly."
- time enough for love
 

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I believe that the measure of a good man/woman is his/her struggle to be good.

So goodness involves two elements: a. "bad" instinctual behavior b. "good" morals that are strong enough to override a more violent nature.

I do think that some people are instinctively good - that is, they naturally have socially desirable virtues like kindness, empathy, fortitude, resiliency. But unless they have any demons to fight, they are "good" in a vacuum. By default. To me, that's not goodness. That's Captain America. It's excellent for society, which bursts with rewards for such a human, but such an advantaged nature isn't goodness itself.

But neither is the more corrupt nature that aspires to goodness but lacks the strength to attain it. That's more obvious.

I suppose, if you boil it down, it's about strength. The strength to bite back what your blood boils to do, because you know it's wrong. And insight: the insight to realize that you need to graft morality onto your person because you weren't born with any too much.

//whoa, intense. sorry guys. it may be that I've given this...uh...too much thought. critique welcome. awesome question, OP.
 
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