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    Question Transcendence

    Enlightenment.

    Zen.

    Nirvana.

    Getting to the other side. Breaking through.

    Some see it as attaining masterhood. It's said the master enters combat equally at peace with both victory & defeat. The ability to see all things as both themselves & unified in an eternal, indestructible all.

    Becoming a better person.

    Can it be done?

    Does the triumphant underdog always sell out? Does the revolutionary have any lasting echo?

    To have things figured out-- approximately.

    Altering the character of one's awareness.

    To be unconcerned with the self, only with what the self is able to do. Faith in good movement, drive to good possibility.

    Breaking something off for the gods... making it count.

    What I'm talking about is hitching a ride across the Mexican desert on some donkeys with your good friends, smoking homegrown tobacco, singing joyous airs. Reading a pamphlet about women's underwear, sitting by a campfire-- eating apple pies. stuff like that.

    Do you think these things are possible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunnyDigestion View Post
    What I'm talking about is hitching a ride across the Mexican desert on some donkeys with your good friends, smoking homegrown tobacco, singing joyous airs. Reading a pamphlet about women's underwear, sitting by a campfire-- eating apple pies. stuff like that.

    Do you think these things are possible?
    Yeah that's very possible.
    All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
    Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

    whether or not you credit psychoanalysis itself, the fact remains that we all must, to the greatest extent possible, understand one another's minds as our own; the very survival of humanity has always depended on it. - Open Culture

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Yeah that's very possible.
    I knew someone would do that. Ur ENTJ superpowers do not faze me. Undaunted, the INFP expeditionary presses on!
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    I see trancendence as the ability to understand that you are not your thoughts or emotion, the ego construct, that you are an awareness beyond that (impermanent) state. And yes it can and has been done. Read Eckhart Tolle _ A New Earth.
    Man suffers only because he takes seriously what the gods made for fun - Watts

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunnyDigestion View Post
    I knew someone would do that. Ur ENTJ superpowers do not faze me. Undaunted, the INFP expeditionary presses on!
    No I wasnt being sarcastic, that is actually possible, it was a practical plan, I dont know what the rest of the post even means.
    All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
    Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

    whether or not you credit psychoanalysis itself, the fact remains that we all must, to the greatest extent possible, understand one another's minds as our own; the very survival of humanity has always depended on it. - Open Culture

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    Maybe when you've mastered what you have needed to master and learned what you've needed to learn. Kind of more of a process than a destination, because once you master one thing, life seems to throw you something else.
    Your kisses, sweeter than honey. But guess what, so is my money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    No I wasnt being sarcastic, that is actually possible, it was a practical plan, I dont know what the rest of the post even means.
    Come on... you know what it means. This is probably the simplest thread I've even made.
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    • Getting (getting?) to the other side.
    • altering (a verb?) awareness?
    • are "these things" (things??) possible?
    • Can it be done (a verb again, really???) ?
    • Becoming (becomming, well .... ) a [better ... really? better? is that what it's about] person (of all things, becomming .. a person? again??? sucks).


    does not compute, mate.



    • Breaking something off for the gods... making it count.


    thats not even in my dictionary

    people wake up all the time. i guess that makes it a "possibility", depending on how you think about that word.

    many people would argue, that the word transcendence ought not to be used like a synonym for waking up.
    but i don't care to go in that discussion right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunnyDigestion View Post
    Come on... you know what it means. This is probably the simplest thread I've even made.
    Well the practical idea you outlined was achieveable, the idea of simultaneously pursuing enlightenment and transcendence as understood by a variety of and often very contrary or dichotomous schools of thought, which are themselves often vague about it, is less achieveable than a road trip on donkeys with your mates.
    All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
    Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

    whether or not you credit psychoanalysis itself, the fact remains that we all must, to the greatest extent possible, understand one another's minds as our own; the very survival of humanity has always depended on it. - Open Culture

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