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    Picking a favorite philosophy is something that seems really bizarre to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Frithjof Schuon's summary of Nietzsche is perhaps my favorite quote about him: "A volcanic genius if there ever was one...but in a manner that is both deviated and demented."
    Kidding aside there is a quote from Nietzsche I like which is something about needing to be able to tolerate a certain amount of internal chaos in order to produce or give birth to a dancing star or something like that, I saw it on a literati t-shirt, which also in some ways sums up something about Nietzsche, he's not riske, he's a darling of the chattering classes or pseudo-intellectuals.

    In some senses its interesting to read the ideas of someone who is bordering on or actually mad but then Dosteyovski's The Overcoat, Notes from The Underground or Diary of a Madman are considered to have literary merit but they arent considered to be philosophy.
    All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Outsider View Post
    Picking a favorite philosophy is something that seems really bizarre to me.
    Interesting, why so?
    All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
    Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

    whether or not you credit psychoanalysis itself, the fact remains that we all must, to the greatest extent possible, understand one another's minds as our own; the very survival of humanity has always depended on it. - Open Culture

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Kidding aside there is a quote from Nietzsche I like which is something about needing to be able to tolerate a certain amount of internal chaos in order to produce or give birth to a dancing star or something like that, I saw it on a literati t-shirt, which also in some ways sums up something about Nietzsche, he's not riske, he's a darling of the chattering classes or pseudo-intellectuals.

    In some senses its interesting to read the ideas of someone who is bordering on or actually mad but then Dosteyovski's The Overcoat, Notes from The Underground or Diary of a Madman are considered to have literary merit but they arent considered to be philosophy.
    I find it hard to take a sentence too seriously when its creator spells "risque" as "riske".

    I also find it funny when one someone calls another person a pseudo-intellectual.

    I'm pretty sure the best way to spot pseudo-intellectualism is to see someone bring up the term in a conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I find it hard to take a sentence too seriously when its creator spells "risque" as "riske".

    I also find it funny when one somebody calls another a pseudo-intellectual.

    In fact, I'm pretty sure the best way to spot pseudo-intellectualism is to see someone use the term in a conversation.
    And then, to crown it all, 'The Overcoat' and 'Diary of a Madman' were written by Gogol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    And then, to crown it all, 'The Overcoat' and 'Diary of a Madman' were written by Gogol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Interesting, why so?
    To me it's more of a state of mind, not a buffet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Outsider View Post
    To me it's more of a state of mind, not a buffet.
    I understood what you meant immediately.

    To an Fi dom, they've already got their philosophy. It comes from within.

    To an INTJ, the philosophy comes from "not" having a philosophy. It comes from looking at and understanding the buffet.
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    "If we affirm one moment, we thus affirm not only ourselves but all existence. For nothing is self-sufficient, neither in us ourselves nor in things; and if our soul has trembled with happiness and sounded like a harp string just once, all eternity was needed to produce this one event - and in this single moment of affirmation all eternity was called good, redeemed, justified, and affirmed."

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