Naturalist Vs Creationist

[Ginkgo]

I don't believe in chance in any other way than acknowledging the fact that it's a human way of calculating the likelihood events. I believe our existence was intended. I've often heard the argument that we are too small and impotent to be of any significance. You only need to watch Carl Sagan's Tiny Blue Dot to realize that we are significant; our size or effect on the universe has nothing to do with whether we were intended to exist or not. Yes, I enjoy kicking over straw men just because I can.

 

[Nicodemus]

Creationism says that God created life on Earth while Evolutionism says the man evolved from the monkey (correct me if I'm wrong).

[YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh0F4FBLJRE"]Evolution of Man[/YOUTUBE]

I think thing happened at the same time. While Adam and Eve were happy in Heaven, here on Earth that specie of monkey evolved. When God expulsed Adam and Eve the first homo sapiens appeared on Earth. So we can say that Adam and Eve were the first homo sapiens.

"And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. And Jehovah God planted a garden eastward, in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed."

That dust and ground is the Earth.

 

[freeeekyyy]

I believe in evolutionary creationism. I believe to deny evolution is idiotic and foolish. But I think it's also foolishness to deny God.

 

[Ginkgo]

I believe in evolutionary creationism. I believe to deny evolution is idiotic and foolish. But I think it's also foolishness to deny God.

+1

 

[Nicodemus]

But I think it's also foolishness to deny God.

What about Zeus?

 

[King sns]

What about Zeus?

Any higher power.

I use God because of familiarity with the term.
(I can't speak for anyone else though)

 

[freeeekyyy]

What about Zeus?

Considering that there is nobody on top of Mt. Olympus...

 

[Nicodemus]

Considering that there is nobody on top of Mt. Olympus...

And considering that man is not made of dust of the ground?

 

[Ginkgo]

And considering that man is not made of dust of the ground?

Stardust.

 

[Quinlan]

Then I say the earth is a tortoise held up by elephants.

Finally someone talks some sense!

 

[Qlip]

If there were a God, and if he created the universe.. then I'm pretty sure he wouldn't mind people making up their minds on what's available to them.

 

[Mole]

I believe in evolutionary creationism. I believe to deny evolution is idiotic and foolish. But I think it's also foolishness to deny God.

Creationism is mytho-poetic while natural selection is fact.

And it seems to be a fact that God is mytho-poetic.

 

[Kraska]

[YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh0F4FBLJRE"]Evolution of Man[/YOUTUBE]


"And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. And Jehovah God planted a garden eastward, in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed."

That dust and ground is the Earth.

Well, as the Bible says God created first the angels and the Heaven. So dust and ground don't necesary meant the Earth. There could be dust and ground up there too.

Just my opinion.

 

[Kraska]

I have a question, hope someone can answer.

The science says that the Univers was created after a big ball exploded. The Big Bang.
I agree with that, I always did.

My question is: where did this ball came from?

 

[Nicodemus]

Well, as the Bible says God created first the angels and the Heaven.

That is not true: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Man appears in chapter 1, the first angel appears in chapter 16 of Genesis.

 

[Kraska]

That is not true: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Man appears in chapter 1, the first angel appears in chapter 16 of Genesis.

I thought the angels were created way before the humans

 

[Nicodemus]

Actually, they were never created at all.

 

[Qlip]

Actually, they were never created at all.

I don't know if this is what you mean.. but in Jewish thought angels aren't distinct from God. That's why Jews don't believe in Satan. There are angels who's job it is basically to question God, but that's all acording to the plan and not distinct from his will. In true monotheism, when evil things happen the finger will up pointed at God.

 

[gromit]

I have no idea where we came from or how the universe started. Both religion and science require faith on my part (science, since I'm not a scientist, and since even the scientists don't 100% understand).

Either way, the earth is cool and beautiful, and that we're amazingly lucky to be on the one planet for like a bazillion miles that can support life.

 

[Kraska]

I have no idea where we came from or how the universe started. Both religion and science require faith on my part (science, since I'm not a scientist, and since even the scientists don't 100% understand).

Either way, the earth is cool and beautiful, and that we're amazingly lucky to be on the one planet for like a bazillion miles that can support life.

I'm afraid that's my fault. However we are talking about the Creationism idiology so we must talk about religion as well. I think